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re: I don't understand pumpers: evidently it's Jimbo or bust? WTF

Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:43 am to
Posted by EastTexasTiger
Lufkin, Tx.
Member since Feb 2007
3824 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:43 am to
You don't fire Les unless you have the guy you want if you're an intelligent person. However if you're a moron......
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85007 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:45 am to
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go all in on Herman and let people freak out. Dude is the future.



You may be right, but people freaking out would be warranted IMO. He is as big of a risk/reward candidate as you'll find. He could be a great hire, or he could turn out to be Larry Coker...
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30353 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:47 am to
All this talk really should be eliminated until Monday.

Either JIMBAW is the man and the deal was discussed months ago or he was a smokescreen all along to usher in the new guy that barely anyone is talking about.


Eta: No sources for that.
This post was edited on 11/28/15 at 11:48 am
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:47 am to
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He could be a great hire, or he could turn out to be Larry Coker...
Coker never coached before taking over UM
Posted by HMTVBrian2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
5760 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:48 am to
To an extent, yes, it would be a little warranted. I think Herman is basically equivalent to chip kelly when Oregon brought him in under belotti. He's a terrific coach, but a bit of an unknown.

I think he's going to be dynamite somewhere big eventually. Would rather give him a shot here then watch him go somewhere else and do it.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29143 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:48 am to
Lol
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29143 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:49 am to
Herman is worth the risk. Lsu is in a corner now at this point, you can't go back to les. Might as well get the best young coach you can.
Posted by The Blue Stuff
Member since Oct 2015
1106 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:50 am to
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Oh how people forget just how pedestrian miles' record was as a head coach before coming to LSU.


So was Saban's. What's your point?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63066 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:51 am to
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It's part of their new narrative to defend miles. Setting up the new coach for failure with unrealistic expectations.



I bet you have to concentrate to breathe.

The expectations of your ilk is that any retard can win 9-10 games at LSU. And yet it's other people that have unreal expectations?

I am doing the next guy a favor by saying the likelihood of matching/exceeding Miles is lower than the likelihood that an unknown coach does worse.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:51 am to
This has been in the works. Agent reached out last year.

Done deal
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85007 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:52 am to
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Coker never coached before taking over UM



Basically the same resume as Tom Herman. I'm not really trying to knock Herman, just pointing out that is it understandable for people to have reservations about Herman.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8666 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:53 am to
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I don't understand pumpers: evidently it's Jimbo or bust? WTF by Lou PaiA lot of them want LSU to fail so they can be vindicated.


It's become evident that people are that stupid and vindictive.
Posted by HMTVBrian2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
5760 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 11:56 am to
Tbh you could have reservations about most people. I think it's understandable, he's just my preference I guess. The last two guys we got were young coaches on the upswing of their careers..might as well try it again imo.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26664 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:31 pm to


I've been saying this since this shite show started. If we don't get Jimbo, there are still several other candidates that I'd love to have.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26664 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:43 pm to
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1. So was Saban's
2. Why do i care?


And you still don't get it. Both of them had mediocre records in big time conferences, but both succeeded and won championships at LSU. Once they were able to recruit this great state and get upgrades done to facilities and pay for high caliber assistants, they became the successful coaches they are.

Get a guy in here that has had a mediocre to great record. One that is successful with QBs for a good period of time (I want this most of all because we have hugely failed at it). One that has played against some good competition.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84124 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:49 pm to
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A lot of them want LSU to fail so they can be vindicated.



I've seen no one day this. I have seen plenty of people that wanted LSU to lose to Ole Miss though. Never seen a "pumper" actively want LSU to lose.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84124 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:50 pm to
You have been destroying people throughout this. Well done.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3619 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:53 pm to
In a normal year when there is no $15M buyout to consider, it would be tough to understand. However, b/c of the buyout, the coach we get better be a HR hire (Fisher, Kelly, maybe a few others) or LSU looks bad and suffers long-term damage. I understand people who may not agree with that position but I don't understand you if you can't fathom that.
Posted by SwampManiac
Quito, Ecuador
Member since Jul 2013
1758 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:57 pm to
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There are easily 15-20 coaches at a minimum who could lead us to 8-3 or 9-2 regular seasons every single year. No risk in replacing an overpaid bafoon of a coach.


Yes. IF they can recruit. Miles is a GREAT recruiter. He may miss on needs sometimes but he can recruit talent.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63066 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:57 pm to
It's so easy when there is no middle ground with some of these goons. It's either frick Miles or you love him more than LSU. When they are hit in the brick head with a rational opinion somewhere along the infinite spectrum between, they have nothing.
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