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Posted on 11/18/14 at 10:06 am to Jaydeaux
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JaydeauxI believe that the coaches are starting the QB they think is their best chance
That is what we are doing now , how would that be a change ?? 1st down we run to the left , 2nd down we run a little off center to the right .3rd down we hold our breath and hope for a "miracle" pass
Posted on 11/18/14 at 10:09 am to sjmabry
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mabryI believe that the coaches are starting the QB they think is their best chance
Can't use the young freshamn excuse anymore the season is about over . That = a year . If they cannot do it now they never will be able to play at the SEC level we want . So they coaches need to be looking for a QB
Posted on 11/18/14 at 10:14 am to Jaydeaux
quote:I think you are cutting the coaches too much slack and believing their talking points.
What say you rant?
it's like following a political party, left or right, they are positioning, messaging and creating thoughts THEY want you to have. What we need to figure out, is what is actually real?
Posted on 11/18/14 at 10:14 am to msully
If they put in Harris, let him operate out of the gun as well as under center, and he stinks I would not say one word and accept our QB's suck this year. If they put him in and run the same offense that is limited to Jennings abilities, I wouldn't be surprised. But it would further cement what most of us know about Miles and his willingness to adapt.
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 10:18 am
Posted on 11/18/14 at 10:22 am to Mr. Wayne
Maybe Harris does know the plays, but what about protections and defensive fronts? There is more to quarterback than just handing off or throwing a pass. I would have like to see him try to ignite the team last week, but oh well.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 10:23 am to Drizzt
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If they really think Harris would do worse than Jenning's awful performance against Arky
Yep. If we gave it our best shot at victory, we are so far the worst team in the West it's not even funny. Our best shot against Arkansas was essentially crossing our fingers and a prayer. I hate it how they keep saying this like it's supposed to make everyone feel better. Week in and week out, Jennings shows 0 improvement. He appears to actually have regressed since last year. He's far enough along that I think we can safely abandon all hope of him ever not being a massive liability as a starter and hindrance to the offensive performance.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 10:23 am to Jaydeaux
At this point Harris playing is about next year much more than this year. That's why he should be playing. The next game and the bowl preparation should be all about trying to develop him at a faster pace than he would be developed if he just sat on the sideline.
90% of LSU fans, if they are honest, would have said that Jennings gave LSU the best chance of winning vs. Alabama. And, with lots to play for this year, playing Jennings only vs. Alabama was probably the right choice and certainly wasn't a crazy decision.
People who focus on this year and have expectations of Harris coming in and this offense being immediately better are basing that opinion on hope. The reality is that a young QB cannot develop in a short period of time. Harris will be up and down if he plays. He won't be a totally different QB by the bowl game...there just isn't enough time to develop him by then. He's going to be up and down at that point as well. And, the Spring is going to be up and down.
The hope would be that by game 4 or 5 of next year, Harris might be starting to turn the corner and giving consistency at a position where we desperately need it. THAT is the reality of where we are, IMO.
90% of LSU fans, if they are honest, would have said that Jennings gave LSU the best chance of winning vs. Alabama. And, with lots to play for this year, playing Jennings only vs. Alabama was probably the right choice and certainly wasn't a crazy decision.
People who focus on this year and have expectations of Harris coming in and this offense being immediately better are basing that opinion on hope. The reality is that a young QB cannot develop in a short period of time. Harris will be up and down if he plays. He won't be a totally different QB by the bowl game...there just isn't enough time to develop him by then. He's going to be up and down at that point as well. And, the Spring is going to be up and down.
The hope would be that by game 4 or 5 of next year, Harris might be starting to turn the corner and giving consistency at a position where we desperately need it. THAT is the reality of where we are, IMO.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 10:26 am to Jaydeaux
we is goin' down!
cam is gone!
cam is gone!
Posted on 11/18/14 at 11:00 am to geauxpurple
He actually thinks
Posted on 11/18/14 at 11:03 am to Jaydeaux
Then this team is screwed offensive wise next year as well...
Posted on 11/18/14 at 11:03 am to Jaydeaux
LSU QB Jennings says its his team and that's that.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 11:07 am to gsvar2004
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i really think the reason harris isnt playing is that les thinks jennings will take less chances therefore he is the "safer" bet.
At what point did Les Miles start playing it safe? I remember at one point it seemed like every game they would refer to him as the riverboat gambler. He needs to get back to his old ways and bet the house on the Harris!
Posted on 11/18/14 at 11:10 am to moneyg
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The reality is that a young QB cannot develop in a short period of time.
No they can't, but as a competent offensive coach you can setup easy pass plays to get a young QB's confidence up. Not handcuff him until we're down by 17 points.
Just because you have young QBs doesn't mean you give up completely on the passing game, which is essentially what Miles has done.
The sad part is its not all on Jennings. The passing scheme is terrible he only has 1 WR to throw to normally.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 11:12 am to Chimlim
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The sad part is its not all on Jennings. The passing scheme is terrible he only has 1 WR to throw to normally.
to be fair, it's not like Jennings actually looks to any other receiver other than the primary
Posted on 11/18/14 at 11:28 am to Chimlim
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No they can't, but as a competent offensive coach you can setup easy pass plays to get a young QB's confidence up. Not handcuff him until we're down by 17 points.
If you are talking about Jennings, I think the staff has done this. I'd love to see a compilation of Jennings' passes against Arkansas. It was historically poor. And, a large part of the time, Jennings doesn't even get the ball out of his hands. It's not because players are blanketed. It's because Jennings isn't making the proper pre-snap read and is therefore having to figure things out on the fly (which he's not capable of doing).
Posted on 11/18/14 at 11:32 am to Salmon
I thought the D played fairly well especially considering...holding ARK to less than 100 yards rushing and 256 total yards wasn't bad. Need to work against covering TEs, but we must realize they never get a chance to practice that. 
Pigs had all the intangibles: bye week, at home, cold weather, desperate for a win, trying to get bowl eligible, LSU coming off a gut wrenching loss, and they always give the Tigers their best shot. Also, the two teams had three common opponents and pigs looked better in defeat against two(Aub. and State) and I'll call Bama a wash(13-14 more total yards and 13-13 less yards but OT loss).
Having said that, I'm not surprised LSU lost. But I am surprised the staff ran LF 5 times and didn't give Harris a chance especially at 17-0.
I think the RBs had 17 runs between them. LSU rarely lets AJ throw passes between the hash marks.
The only drive that looked decent was down 17-0, LSU opened it up and was moving until of course AJ fumbled. Complete failure on the O.
Pigs had all the intangibles: bye week, at home, cold weather, desperate for a win, trying to get bowl eligible, LSU coming off a gut wrenching loss, and they always give the Tigers their best shot. Also, the two teams had three common opponents and pigs looked better in defeat against two(Aub. and State) and I'll call Bama a wash(13-14 more total yards and 13-13 less yards but OT loss).
Having said that, I'm not surprised LSU lost. But I am surprised the staff ran LF 5 times and didn't give Harris a chance especially at 17-0.
I think the RBs had 17 runs between them. LSU rarely lets AJ throw passes between the hash marks.
The only drive that looked decent was down 17-0, LSU opened it up and was moving until of course AJ fumbled. Complete failure on the O.
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 11:37 am
Posted on 11/18/14 at 11:37 am to moneyg
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It was historically poor. And, a large part of the time, Jennings doesn't even get the ball out of his hands. It's not because players are blanketed. It's because Jennings isn't making the proper pre-snap read and is therefore having to figure things out on the fly (which he's not capable of doing).
So the real question is, if Jennings can't hit these easy passes, can't make proper pre-snap reads, and can't react on the fly, then why don't the coaches see this? Aren't these significant abilities each QB much have?
Posted on 11/18/14 at 11:43 am to LSUfan20005
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With the way the O line played, Harris would have snapped in half.
This right here - and there is no excuse, unless we want to hang this year on transition to Grimes - but they didn't even run block well at Arky (and I know that injuries played a part in that.)
Posted on 11/18/14 at 1:32 pm to Jaydeaux
I don't think most people disagree with that, but when one thing isn't working, try mixing things up. It can't hurt if you are going to lose anyway and at least we are doing something productive.
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