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re: How is "Coach O being one of us" relevant to winning games?
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:34 am to Brazos
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:34 am to Brazos
Anyone wanting a head coach at LSU who was an absolute failure in his only real head coaching job is a retard or a troll and probably both.
The guy couldn't even land a head coach job at ULL, SLU, or Tech after the crappy job he did at Mississippi, but LSU should give him a try?
If he wants to prove that he has learned from his terrible past job, do it at one of those schools first.
The retards are running wild on the rant. They want to replace a coach winning at almost 80% with one who cant win 40%. Only on the rant!
The guy couldn't even land a head coach job at ULL, SLU, or Tech after the crappy job he did at Mississippi, but LSU should give him a try?
If he wants to prove that he has learned from his terrible past job, do it at one of those schools first.
The retards are running wild on the rant. They want to replace a coach winning at almost 80% with one who cant win 40%. Only on the rant!
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:38 am to Mo Jeaux
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How is "being one of us" necessarily relevant to recruiting.
Do you think a La. native would have a better rapport with high school coaches and parents in this state than say a coach from florida?
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:39 am to Chrome
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I've always considered the line "that he is one of us" as his familiarity with the recruiting of players in the area (south) and being able to have a better dialog with them.
well, Nick Saban isn't from Alabama, Urban Meyer wasn't from Florida, Jimbo isn't from Florida, Bob Stoops isn't from Oklahoma, Dabo's not from South Carolina, Spurrier grew up in Tennessee, etc., etc., etc.
Is being from a place a benefit? I guess it doesn't hurt, but it's a very minor point.
Maybe decades ago, a close connection with a state was more important. But today, with all the information and technology available, a college coach will instantly know who the best players and best local high school programs are and will very quickly build those relationships. Besides, the elite schools recruit nationwide.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:50 am to Brazos
In my opinion, being from Louisiana is an advantage to recruiting in state. He has already developed a rapport with high school coaches and many kids. I believe parents of local kids would have a tendency to trust a coach that is a fellow resident of the state.
As far as his season record, I can't possibly see anyone having a realistic expectation of him winning out this season. If he were to do so, I think you could make the argument he would be the greatest coach in college football at this time. I'm not confident in any coach currently that could inherent a team during the season whose moral was crushed and facing a very tough schedule without the opportunity of implementing the system he wants and win out. I think a 2-3 or 3-2 record to finish out would be impressive and show potential.
As far as his season record, I can't possibly see anyone having a realistic expectation of him winning out this season. If he were to do so, I think you could make the argument he would be the greatest coach in college football at this time. I'm not confident in any coach currently that could inherent a team during the season whose moral was crushed and facing a very tough schedule without the opportunity of implementing the system he wants and win out. I think a 2-3 or 3-2 record to finish out would be impressive and show potential.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 10:53 am to Brazos
It isn't. Just like louisianans vote in personality, they will do the same thing with the HC.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:05 am to Brazos
Recruiting is 99 percent of coaching and coach Miles and ooach are the best at that , from what I can gether from the ignorant fan base is they would rather get beat 65 to 50 that to to win by 10 !
Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:06 am to timm6971463
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groupee
If only the rest of us were as wise as you.
To anoit Herman an automatic shoe in for the HC job at LSU without giving Orgeron a chance is premature, imo.
For letting it play out and see how the season unfolds before making assumptions about anyone.
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 11:25 am
Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:10 am to Brazos
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t seems I read that quote daily on here. I'm all for coach O getting a chance if he wins out but him being from south Louisiana should have nothing to do with that decision. I would much rather a proven hire but if he wins out he deserves a shot.
I believe he loves LSU.
Despite what Miles has said, sometimes it seems like he was just here for the money and wanted to milk the cow for as long as possible. The analogy he made about coaching LSU is like riding a mechanical bull pissed me off.
Coach O being from here makes people feel good about he loves LSU- that's it.
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 11:12 am
Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:20 am to Brazos
Why errybody acting like little bitches on this board? Lets focus on the now, baws. We got black bears to eat!
#geaux2hellOleMiss
#geaux2hellOleMiss
Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:41 am to SP2016
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If only the rest of us were as wise as you.
It would be helpful!
I am talking about now and not some unknown future. As of now, I don't want and don't understand this lovefest about a position coach with a bad career record as a head coach. We have beat up on two poor teams at home while we played our starters long after the game was decided. Lets chill our jets on any O for coach shite until we have played someone at least halfway decent.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:26 pm to LSU Groupee
U acting all superior and throwing out insults shows how intelligent you think you are but proves other wise. How well did the current New England head coach do in his first head coaching job? What Coach O did at Ole Miss I DGAF about. If and that's a big if he finishes from 3-2 or 4-1 he should seriously be considered. The people that are saying no way in hell are being the ignorant ones. Herman may be the flavor of the month or year, but he plays in conference USA just got his arse whipped by NAVY. And squeaked by Tulsa I ain't impressed sorry. Results so far from CEO are trending upward if he continues that trend I'm all in. And I don't care what accent he speaks with or where he is from. Just win Baby!
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:27 pm to timm6971463
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Recruiting is 99 percent of coaching
If that were the case we would have been competing for championships more often under Miles. Is it a huge part of being a HC? Sure, but 99%? You serious, Clark?
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:37 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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How well did the current New England head coach do in his first head coaching job? What Coach O did at Ole Miss I DGAF about.
Belichick has never coached in college. Different game.
And you're going to simply ignore the only permanent head coaching job ever held by Orgeron? It's the most direct data on his abilities to run his own program. The interim jobs are with another guy's team, staff, system, etc.
But sure, let's just ignore 3-21 in conference at his only prior permanent gig. It was so long ago!! He's learned from his mistakes!! He's got a cool accent!! Sign him up!!!
/sarcasm/ for those that couldn't tell.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:38 pm to timm6971463
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Recruiting is 99 percent of coaching and coach Miles and ooach are the best at that
then where are all of our championship trophies???
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:38 pm to Topwater Trout
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Do you think a La. native would have a better rapport with high school coaches and parents in this state than say a coach from florida?
Not necessarily, no. I do not think that there is necessarily an inherent quality in being from Louisiana that would be a significant positive factor in recruiting. If it's so significant, why have we (and other states) not put that factor toward the top of the list in the past when making hiring decisions?
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:39 pm to SkepTic
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n my opinion, being from Louisiana is an advantage to recruiting in state.
I think this is a very parochial point of view.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:42 pm to Mo Jeaux
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If it's so significant, why have we (and other states) not put that factor toward the top of the list in the past when making hiring decisions
you don't think where coaches are from is factored into them getting hired or not? Not just for head coaches. You have 2 applicants with same qualifications...one is from Idaho and the other is from texas...who do you hire and why?
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:45 pm to atltiger6487
I never said he did. He coached the Browns before being hired in New England. As I said I don't give a damn about where he is from if he turns the program around from where Miles put it, in barely a season he will probably get the job. He wins out he is getting the job. I don't thing it will happen I still think the O-line will not hold up to better defensive line play. But you "smart people" who look at Ole Miss and think he can't succeed do not sound very smart. Answer this what has Herman done besides beating FSU and Oklahoma. Won a CUSA title that's pretty much it isn't it.
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:47 pm to Topwater Trout
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you don't think where coaches are from are factored into them getting hired or not?
Factored in? Maybe, to a certain extent. But those of you who are acting like it is a significant factor are mistaken in my opinion.
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You have 2 applicants with same qualifications...one is from Idaho and the other is from texas...who do you hire and why?
It may depend on where I am.
But, again, I think viewing it as a dispositive factor is incorrect.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:48 pm to LSU Groupee
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Anyone wanting a head coach at LSU who was an absolute failure in his only real head coaching job is a retard or a troll and probably both.
The guy couldn't even land a head coach job at ULL, SLU, or Tech after the crappy job he did at Mississippi, but LSU should give him a try?
If he wants to prove that he has learned from his terrible past job, do it at one of those schools first.
The retards are running wild on the rant. They want to replace a coach winning at almost 80% with one who cant win 40%. Only on the rant!
Instead of name-calling, I'll just put forth the fact that after being fired by ole miss, he served as interim head coach at USC and went 6-2. He's currently 2-0 as LSU'/ IHC. I'm not saying he deserves the job. But you don't not consider the guy just because his record at Ole Miss when he he's done things since then.
Also, he's already talked multiple times about what he did wrong at Ole Miss and how he's adjusted his coaching tactics since going back to USC and now at LSU. He isn't the same coach he was at Ole Miss.
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 12:50 pm
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