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How in the hell did LSU win that bball game last night is beyond me
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:09 am
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:09 am
I'm glad they won and I'll take a win however they can get it, but damn most of the game they played sloppy. So many turnovers against the press, Martin still trying to jack up 3's like he's a 50% shooter (1/20 on the year so far from 3), Mickey was in foul trouble early and didn't play most of the game, JJ didn't make many adjustments when the team was getting murdered by WV full court pressure, etc.
I'm still trying to figure out how in the hell did they end up winning this game b/c if you just look at the game w/o keeping the score WV was the better looking team.
I'm still trying to figure out how in the hell did they end up winning this game b/c if you just look at the game w/o keeping the score WV was the better looking team.
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Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:10 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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I'm glad they won and I'll take a win however they can get it, but damn most of the game they played sloppy. So many turnovers against the press, Martin still trying to jack up 3's like he's a 50% shooter (1/20 on the year so far from 3), Mickey was in foul trouble early and didn't play most of the game, JJ didn't make many adjustments when the team was getting murdered by WV full court pressure, etc.
NOT PERFECTION!!!! FIRE JOHNNY JoNEs!!!!11!!!
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:10 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
Because WVU shot horribly. Decent percentage and they would've killed us.
Not complaining though
Not complaining though
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:10 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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I'm still trying to figure out how in the hell did they end up winning this game b/c if you just look at the game w/o keeping the score WV was the better looking team.
Actually outside of the turnovers they created i thought LSU looked vastly superior to WVU. The fact that they got so many easy buckets is the only reason they didnt get run out of their own gym.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:12 am to massiveattack
Yep, they layed a ton of bricks. But hey give TQ credit, that dude willed this team to a win and a HUGE shot and free throws by Hornsby
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 9:13 am
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:12 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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How in the hell did LSU win that bball game last night
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:12 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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I'm still trying to figure out how in the hell did they end up winning this game b/c if you just look at the game w/o keeping the score WV was the better looking team.
lsu lost one major battle last night, and it was by their own doing. They had 22+ turnovers v/s like 12.
Lsu DOMINATED the game in every other fashion.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:14 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
oh shut the frick up with this stupid shite
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:14 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
The difference was WVU shooting 34% and LSU 46%. No matter how many turnovers you get, you have to score. They didn't do that.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:15 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
I understand much of what you said, but not this one:
"JJ didn't make many adjustments when the team was getting murdered by WV full court pressure, etc."
I saw one key adjustment in that we started in the 2nd half to inbound the ball to a flasher in the middle - typically a big - who then pivoted and ditributed the ball to the guard, typically Gray. Also, better spacing in 2nd half so that it was more difficult for WV to trap out of their rather simple man press. In the first half, you had a guy running parallel to Gray "helping" him which actually allowed the defender guarding the extra to trap more easily. Didn't see that as much in the second half.
"JJ didn't make many adjustments when the team was getting murdered by WV full court pressure, etc."
I saw one key adjustment in that we started in the 2nd half to inbound the ball to a flasher in the middle - typically a big - who then pivoted and ditributed the ball to the guard, typically Gray. Also, better spacing in 2nd half so that it was more difficult for WV to trap out of their rather simple man press. In the first half, you had a guy running parallel to Gray "helping" him which actually allowed the defender guarding the extra to trap more easily. Didn't see that as much in the second half.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:15 am to jptiger2009
quote:Ball security was a huge issue. Huggins teams are allowed to be more physical with hand checks thou.
They had 22+ turnovers
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:16 am to bbap
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Actually outside of the turnovers they created i thought LSU looked vastly superior to WVU. The fact that they got so many easy buckets is the only reason they didnt get run out of their own gym.
Exactly. I remember thinking in the first half that this doesn't look like a fluke. We were the more talented team.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:17 am to Choupique19
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:19 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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oh shut the frick up with this stupid shite
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:20 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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JJ didn't make many adjustments when the team was getting murdered by WV full court pressure, etc.
Benching Gray for Patterson early in the 2nd half was critical, imo. Looked like Gray got the message to calm his arse down when he re-entered the game.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:20 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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I'm glad they won and I'll take a win however they can get it, but damn most of the game they played sloppy. So many turnovers against the press, Martin still trying to jack up 3's like he's a 50% shooter (1/20 on the year so far from 3), Mickey was in foul trouble early and didn't play most of the game, JJ didn't make many adjustments when the team was getting murdered by WV full court pressure, etc. I'm still trying to figure out how in the hell did they end up winning this game b/c if you just look at the game w/o keeping the score WV was the better looking team.
I think you are way off base here. First off, we outrebounded one of the top rebounding teams in the country (by 12 no less), got good shots when we didn't turn it over and matched their aggression throughout the game.
WVU's strategy all year has been press all game, force teams into turnover to get easy buckets. They have not been a good halfcourt offensive team, and LSU's D was strong last night and didn't give up many easy looks in the half court.
We had 20 turnovers with 16 minutes to go and ended up with 24 - that was the difference in the game. Once Johnny made some changes on the press break and emphasized passing over the press versus dribbling through the press - we cut down on turnovers, got better looks and took control of the game.
Some cluth shooting by Quarterman and Hornsby and some real toughness and togetherness shown by the whole team. Huge win and great to see.
This was not a "WVU lost the game", it was "LSU won the game". Credit to Johnny and the guys.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:21 am to BayouWolf
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Once Johnny made some changes on the press break and emphasized passing over the press versus dribbling through the press - we cut down on turnovers, got better looks and took control of the game.
I noticed this too. Too many times Gray tried to split the double team. He got benched and TQ was good about passing it over the press usually back to the inbounder (Martin).
Once Gray came back he did the same thing.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:21 am to jptiger2009
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lsu lost one major battle last night, and it was by their own doing. They had 22+ turnovers v/s like 12.
Id actually say a lot of it was WV's doing.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:22 am to BayouWolf
It was a great win for sure...but you'll lose 99 % of the time with 24 turnovers, much less 24 on the road. Got to clean it up.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:22 am to LSU=Champions
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Id actually say a lot of it was WV's doing.
yeah you have to credit WVU there. But LSU won on the boards and shot much better than WVU did. The turnover stat is glaring but if you look at the other facets of the game LSU was clearly superior.
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