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re: How gone is Aranda after this year?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:52 am to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:52 am to Mike da Tigah
This is not negative. We are addressing really the only elephant in the room about this team.
Aranda is without a doubt more valuable than Orgeron. When the time comes and he starts to get offers, what are we going to do?
Aranda is without a doubt more valuable than Orgeron. When the time comes and he starts to get offers, what are we going to do?
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:52 am to Mike da Tigah
How am I miserable and how is this a negative thread?
This is very much a possibility and it's a fricking message board.
This is very much a possibility and it's a fricking message board.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:57 am to sunnydaze
Here's the big question about our particular mode of operation:
Gumps lose a good coordinator, the can still say,
"Okay, at least Saban is still head coach."
We lose Aranda, which we will, probably sooner rather than later:
Will YOU be saying, "Oh, that's okay. I still feel good long-term because we still have Orgeron as head coach."?
Gumps lose a good coordinator, the can still say,
"Okay, at least Saban is still head coach."
We lose Aranda, which we will, probably sooner rather than later:
Will YOU be saying, "Oh, that's okay. I still feel good long-term because we still have Orgeron as head coach."?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:00 pm to Marfa
quote:
Aranda is without a doubt more valuable than Orgeron
What do you base this on???????
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:05 pm to dukke v
My eyes
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:11 pm to dukke v
quote:
What do you base this on???????
The fact that he's really good at coaching. Is this a trick question?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:13 pm to CocoLoco
quote:
My eyes
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:14 pm to Mike da Tigah
quote:
You people are so incredibly miserable. On a day where you should be excited with a new offense and stellar defense, and great game, all you can contribute this morning is NEGATIVE shite. Worrying about shite way down the line instead of just enjoying the moment.
The only problem is this was the risk of going this direction with the entire decision. If this was some kind of first-time DC who we struck gold on, and there was a chance we could mold him over the next few years and plan long term, yes, this discussion would be ridiculous.
But we are seeing the clash of two things: 1) An up and coming DC who's stock was already on the rise and who could prove a lot this season. 2) A plan that completely relies upon Coordinators to be successful.
The prospect of losing Aranda is huge because you have to find another Aranda, or the plan falls apart.
The defense looked phenomenal last night, which is great. But unless everything clicks and we battle for the championship, this is a rebuilding year and we are planning for a NC run in the next two years.....where, most likely Aranda isn't a part of that.
Successful people tend to want to move up and gain responsibility over time, especially people who can execute so well. Aranda has already talked about the NFL, hence the worry prior to even last year, that's the problem.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:14 pm to Marfa
quote:We aint gonna do shite.
Aranda is without a doubt more valuable than Orgeron. When the time comes and he starts to get offers, what are we going to do?
we ain't firing O to hire Aranda unless O flames out this year. you can let that shite go right now.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:30 pm to sunnydaze
I think Texas makes a big run at him. He and Tom Herman were college roommates. We all know what kind of money Texas has.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:42 pm to drexyl
quote:
i guarantee you that outside of your run of the mill rantard that conversation hasn't taken place.
So you are saying the LSU administration had no conversations about Aranda, the LSU DC, before offering O, the LSU DL coach, anything? Even now, after they took one of the biggest gambles EVER in LSU history, I would think LSU would be having "what if" chats. If they haven't, then Alleva is even a bigger frick up than even I have though.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:46 pm to drexyl
quote:
We aint gonna do shite.
we ain't firing O to hire Aranda unless O flames out this year. you can let that shite go right now.
Unfortunately you're right.
Like the guy complaining about us talking about this uncomfortable subject, Alleva didn't think that thinking ahead was important. He made the expedient decision instead of the best one.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:05 pm to LSU Groupee
quote:no i'm saying that now that O is hired there is no way any conversations have been had regarding firing O just to prevent Aranda from leaving to become a head coach somewhere else. it's silly to suggest otherwise.
So you are saying the LSU administration had no conversations about Aranda, the LSU DC, before offering O, the LSU DL coach, anything?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:07 pm to Goldrush25
quote:i'm not sure hiring a DC with no head coaching experience would have been the better hire. college football history is littered with the corpses of OC's and DC's that could not make the jump to head coach - let alone handing one the keys to one of the top programs in the country.
Alleva didn't think that thinking ahead was important.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:36 pm to drexyl
quote:
just to prevent Aranda from leaving to become a head coach somewhere else. it's silly to suggest otherwise.
I can mostly agree with that.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:39 pm to drexyl
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let alone handing one the keys to one of the top programs in the country.
How many DL coaches get handed those keys?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:54 pm to LSU Groupee
quote:one i suppose. if we're going back in time and our choice is O and a DC w/ no head coaching experience then based on resume those aren't great options. Now that the decision has been made we aren't going to fire O to keep Aranda.
How many DL coaches get handed those keys?
That said I'm having a hard time coming up with things to be upset about with O both as an interim and after he got the job. He appears to be doing a really good job so far.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 3:14 pm to RightHook
And you know this how? If that were true he would take an assistant nfl gig or position coach.
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