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How do you hire a guy who went 3-21 in the same division?

Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:45 pm
Posted by axd9142a
Houston, Texas
Member since Jul 2016
87 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:45 pm
He went 3-21 in SEC-W. He was the worst coach ever for a division rival with a lesser reputation. You were picking him to replace a man who had gone 19-3 in the same league, in the same division and won a national championship,a SEC championship, two SEC-W titles and 2 BCS bowl wins. Since that period (2005-2007), no other college team had given him a second look as head coach.

When, Curley Hallman was hired he had a better record at Southern Miss, than O had at Ole Miss. Hell, Curley had a better record at LSU than O had at Ole Miss.

Please note that Curley had to deal with Proposition 48 passed by NCAA, in 1986. Louisiana high schools were not geared for proposition 48 in the late 80s and early 90s.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Navajo61490
Baton rouge
Member since Dec 2011
6717 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:46 pm to
Joe cares more about his ego than the program. His job was to basically get Herman and didnt like that Herman was trying to get the most money.

We settled on O instead of the better coach due to Joe
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5444 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:52 pm to
For starters you fire your current coach in SEPTEMBER.. that never made sense... I said that day, whoever they hired as the interim would be the next head coach (thought it was likely to be Aranda)... should have fired miles after the AL game and then we could have had a real search with the interim in the way
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79701 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:53 pm to
quote:



When, Curley Hallman was hired he had a better record at Southern Miss, than O had at Ole Miss. Hell, Curley had a better record at LSU than O had at Ole Miss.

Please note that Curley had to deal with Proposition 48 passed by NCAA, in 1986. Louisiana high schools were not geared for proposition 48 in the late 80s and early 90s.


We're reduced to making excuses for one Hudson Hallman.

That's where we're at right now.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17177 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:54 pm to
Thanks for all of the old information that everyone already knows. I was hoping another thread would get started.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43894 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:55 pm to
I would have hired Curly Hallman over O. That's how bad this hire is. I never thought I would ever say this, in the 2nd half of the State Game I actually wished Les Miles was still our coach.
Posted by BDJ
Texas
Member since Jul 2016
2135 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:55 pm to
How do you make a post that has been made 20 times the last 3 days?
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15903 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:55 pm to
But the CheeriOs said his record is irrelevant, Ole Miss is just a shite program, he's changed, blah blah...
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27834 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:56 pm to
Alleva said that people learn more through losing. Being a historic level failure is now a desirable qualification.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43894 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:58 pm to
The mother fricker still never won in Starkville. Hell He never won a SEC Road Game as a Head Coach.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5666 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

Alleva said that people learn more through losing. Being a historic level failure is now a desirable qualification.



Funny he said that but I bet anything any other coach with O's record would not have been given the job.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27736 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

For starters you fire your current coach in SEPTEMBER.. that never made sense


The normal thought process behind that is it gives you extra time to put feelers out to land a home run big name hire.

I dont know what the F Alleva did
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65961 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:00 pm to
No idea
Posted by axd9142a
Houston, Texas
Member since Jul 2016
87 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

I actually wished Les Miles was still our coach.


Les' boys were never this un-prepared and they did not throw in the towel so quickly. The man's scheme might have been outdated, but his boys played their hearts out for him.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19825 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:02 pm to
The first 2 weeks of the season he hung the moon
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:28 pm to
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He went 3-21 in SEC-W.


I wish there had been demonstrations on the LSU campus with people asking the same fricking question last November, but instead we just bent over as Alleva shoved O up our arse.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10444 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:31 pm to
Can you give us evidence that this is truly the case? I'd like to understand how this hire, which everyone knew could/would happen ended with Orgeron as the 'winner'. That was a complete embarrassment. Again, it is a reflection of whoever is running LSU athletics. They are either incompetent or are harming the program intentionally. Either way, it spells difficulty for the foreseeable future.

Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43894 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:33 pm to
Les's players would have ripped off their left arm for the mad hatter.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 3:36 pm
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10164 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:43 pm to
and its not like we had from last sept/oct to get this thing right.

anyone with a half a brain knew that with the way 2015 ended, miles leash was as short as alleva's foresight. a list of 10 candidates should have been made november 2015, and behind the scene feelers should have started then. not 1 guy, and when he declines, lets go with the emotional O.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56344 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

Alleva said that people learn more through losing
Well, no wonder we cant understand O, he is too smart for the rest of us.
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