re: How deeply has the Miles Factor wounded this program?

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Wow, just Wow. Miles has nothing to do with the bleeding vaginas that are LSU fans now.

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Hell he doesn't....... Our ticket price paid his butt a lot of money. He is still "in the house" with the last games' play calling. He is still affecting this program. You're crazy to think he's not affecting LSU, and he still pisses off the fans because of the lack of production with the players he's had. His lack of QB development, up/down OL play, time clock problems, time out problems, oh never mind..........

1. His failure to recruit top notch OL over the last few years has killed us this year. Look at every loss, and first half of USM game, and our line can not block worth a damn.

2. We haven't had a dominant OL in a long time. Remember how much people here used to gripe about Stud.

3. O is having to make do with a makeshift OC. There is a reason Ensminger has not been an OC in a long time when incompetent boobs like Mazonne seem to always find a job.

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His failure to recruit top notch OL over the last few years has killed us this year. 

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Recruiting services say otherwise. Grimes brought in talent. They just weak as shite and suck in pass protection.

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Recruiting services say otherwise. Grimes brought in talent. They just weak as shite and suck in pass protection.

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He hasn't brought in SEC Championship caliber talent! Not even close.

If they're weak as shite and can't pass block, they shouldn't have been recruited to play at LSU in the first place!

You think Alabama recruits OL's that aren't strong and aren't already somewhat proficient at Pass Blocking coming out of High School?

Our OL recruiting is the main reason that the program is where it's currently at. Blame it mostly on the OL Coach.

Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

The first sign of a team in decline is the line of scrimmage on both sides this has been an issue since 2013. Miles should've been gone after that season if he couldn't win in 2011 12 or 13 he can't win it and after what he did at the end of 2011 and the stunt he pulled with the Arkansas situation shortly after he should've already been on notice.

Best Comparison..Piyush "Bobby" Jindal

What happened to the "LSU has more talent that any team in college football not named Bama"??

Now, it's "we need a total rebuild"???

Why say LSU can't fire a coach or doesn't want to fire him and then 4 games later fire him to go 6-4 and pay the fired coach $133 grand a month??? What exactly have we gained under Joe's game plan?

I hope I am wrong, but I fear for the results of our coaching search.

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you need to get back on your meds...

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It won't be a total rebuild but it will be a rebuild. We have to get a quality QB and OL in here to start competing for championships. There's no doubt about that.

As we all know,no potentially great qb was going to come to LSU as long as Miles was head coach.And I don't blame them!

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LSU had a championship winning system that took three years to build, by coach saban. It was a good rugged system.

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It was so rugged that saban himself could only win 9 games his final season at LSU.

It was like being on a damn roller coaster while he was here. 8 wins, 10 wins, back to 8 wins, 13 wins, uh-oh, back down again, 9 wins. Up, down, up, down. Jesus jumped up and down. saban at LSU was no better of a coach than Miles was. I appreciate all that he did for the program, but it wasn't as successful or as powerful as some of you want to believe.

Saban at alabama is a completely different coach. But at alabama he has had the advantage of favorable scheduling during the bridge years, favorable calls, with some of them being absolutely mind-boggling and of course with alabama being a media darling, he has gotten the benefit of the doubt in some of the polls, with the 2011 season as proof.