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re: Has CPM recruited for small ball? Size indicates so, but why no small ball?

Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:44 am to
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:44 am to
Just saw one recruiting ranking that had us in the top 10 last year
Posted by TampaTiger22
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:44 am to
Size does not matter . What they project you at is what matters. Like I said I know what I am saying . You are speculating . I have played higher levels of baseball than you can spell . That's AA for the record . Tell pedroia , ichiro , and grinderson that size matters . It's simply not true . Talent is what matters , and ability . If size mattered , the mlb draft would only be taller heavier guys according to you . It's bs
Posted by TampaTiger22
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:45 am to
Granderson
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:46 am to
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Just saw one recruiting ranking that had us in the top 10 last year


Really, which source?

I believe you, I've just seen us ranked outside the top 25 and UF #1 in Baseball America.

College baseball rankings are pretty meaningless as long as you make the top 30-35. It's so much harder to judge than football or basketball obviously.

Posted by TampaTiger22
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:47 am to
You recruit talent genius , not size . They look for ability , and what THEY project your size and talent to end up as.
Posted by Duckman13
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:47 am to
He recruits talent. If a dude is 6'3 he isnt gonna not give him a scholarship
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:48 am to
The answer is that we got shitkicked against Stony Brook because we fielded a defense that had about 6 first basemen playing. We now have something that more resembles a balanced team. Mainieri discovered that you can hide one or two bad gloves, but not six. To be clear, the perceived difference in size is a function of defense, not really of offense in this specific instance.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 9:51 am
Posted by TampaTiger22
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:49 am to
Of course , lol he lets just recruit smaller guys . No scholarships if you are over 6' tall . Would want our team average height to go up
Posted by beary25
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:49 am to
You win the award for meaningless thread for the 5th consecutive year. Truly an inspiration.
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:50 am to
It was either BA or CB but they had us listed as Louisiana St so maybe you overlooked it

and 7th by PG I believe
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 9:53 am
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:52 am to
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Size does not matter .


What you mean to say is that size doesn't mean you can't succeed. It matters. Why do you think scouts don't like 5'10-5'11 RHP? Injury concerns, lack of power concerns, etc.

Of course talent matters most, but size is a concern in many cases. Show me an MLB roster that is made up of guys like Pedroia size. None of them are. And Granderson is 6'1". That's plenty good for a CF. Ichiro is 5'11/6'0 depending on who you believe. That's pretty good too.

I'm not saying everybody has to be 6'3 215 like Troy Tulo. But, you do need a few guys larger than 6'1 170 on your team for balance. If you don't have balance and you have only small guys, then you have to adjust your strategy for that. It's unbelievable to me that you managed to play AA ball and don't realize that. Vince Young played in the NFL. He's pretty dumb, so I imagine just because you played doesn't make you a genius or expert on the topic of how to build a winning team. If you stated you were a GM or scout, I'd take you opinion more seriously.

Posted by therick711
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:54 am to
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Why do you think scouts don't like 5'10-5'11 RHP? Injury concerns, lack of power concerns, etc.



Mainieri is building a college team, not a pro team. Scouts like those guys because they are rare. Not a ton of those folks in college. Second, Mainieri has been recruiting athleticism for defensive purposes to grow with the game as mentioned before.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:54 am to
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was either BA or CB but they had us listed as Louisiana St so maybe you overlooked it

and 7th by PG I believe



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Like I said, the class is still a really good class, but I don't believe it is elite.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:55 am to
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The answer is that we got shitkicked against Stony Brook because we fielded a defense that had about 6 first basemen playing


You watched a different series than me. Those frickers hit the shite out of the ball. Funny, they had decent size too.

Posted by tirebiter
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:55 am to
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Judging by size, we are definitely a small ball team.


Size does not equal bat speed nor hitting prowess. By your standard, Wes Rea for MSU should be hitting 30 bombs a season and what he really is is a large, relatively slow, gap hitter. I would prefer taller guys at 1B, SS, and 3B than shorter guys, but that is for defensive purposes. Stevenson ain't small, either, he appears to have put on some good weight.
Posted by TampaTiger22
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:56 am to
This isn't the major leagues . And granderson is 5'10 at best , I know him personally and he works out with my AAU team ALL the time . I am 6'2 he is not even close . And ichiro is 5'10 also . The point is . Size does not matter , it's talent they look for , along with what they project you to become . That's it . Size only matters in your head . You're just wrong . You can argue all you want
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:56 am to
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Of course , lol he lets just recruit smaller guys . No scholarships if you are over 6' tall . Would want our team average height to go up




Of course you recruit talent, but the obvious story to be told is that there are lots of choices and lots of players at camps and showcases. Lots of them are bound to be close in talent. PM is putting an emphasis on Defense. If your'e going to field a lineup who lacks as much power as LSU does, you're forced to play small ball. That's my point. I'm sorry you got butthurt over it.
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:56 am to
Doesnt mean anything. More than a couple sites had us in the top 10
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:57 am to
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Second, Mainieri has been recruiting athleticism for defensive purposes to grow with the game as mentioned before.



And I'm fine with that, but we're not playing with a small ball strategy. Look at last year's CWS against UCLA. They played small ball and we did not. Our talent and size dictates that small ball is the answer.
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:58 am to
You are really obsessed over the player's size aren't you. I remember you bringing this up last year.
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