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Gymnastics home cooking

Posted on 2/5/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted by LAD
New Iberia
Member since Feb 2016
1296 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 12:33 pm
I know there was a lot of discussion about the “generous” scoring our ladies received last Friday. If you’re thinking we’re getting an advantage, just watch some other meets. I just watched the UCLA/ Arizona meet from UCLA’s home court. UCLA scored over 198, with clearly generous scoring. What we’ve seen awarded a 9.875 in our home meets was given a 9.925 or even 9.95 for UCLA. Stick with it Lady Tigers! You are definitely in the mix for the Final Four!
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 12:34 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41895 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 12:37 pm to
Always happens for home teams
Posted by Aforem7
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
876 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 12:38 pm to
Oklahoma routinely gets the benefit of the doubt on many of their routines. So I couldn't give less of a shite about a little bit of home cooking
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 10:44 pm
Posted by dchotard
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
1163 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 12:39 pm to
OK Gymnasts routinely get 9.5s or higher simply because of the leos they are wearing.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67903 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 12:42 pm to
The scoring was embarrassing but the scoring issues are a major problem across all of NCAA.

There is also a reason RQS drops every teams 'highest' overall score and make you count a specific number of road scorings when calculating the RQS averages for seeding purposes.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16797 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 12:45 pm to
With the home and away cooking Oklahoma gets, a little PMAC home cooking doesn’t bother me at all.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6172 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

but the scoring issues are a major problem across all of NCAA.

Its holding back the sport if we are being honest.
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
1935 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 12:57 pm to
Who does the scoring? Aren't there officials from the SEC handling that?

I have heard about the judges being generous as a reason to generate interest and excitement, like when Haleigh Bryant scored three perfect 10's in a meet last year. Then when it gets to tournament time the judges get picky.

Is that true or is it BS?
Posted by thumperpait
Member since Nov 2005
2415 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:23 pm to
There were routines that were under scored for us also. Works out at the end.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13018 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:36 pm to
This is why I don’t consider these completions as a “sport”. If scoring is based on opinion, it’s not a real sport.
Posted by jpcajun
Member since Nov 2010
1204 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:00 pm to
If everyone else is getting generous scoring and we are as well.... I'm ok with that. Seems a lot of generous scoring going on this year.
Posted by Yippie_Ky_yae
Member since Jun 2019
3726 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:03 pm to
Oklahoma get generous scores at the finals, away from home.
Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
2736 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:46 pm to
Oh yeah, what about baseball? Is that a real sport?
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45109 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

Oh yeah, what about baseball? Is that a real sport?



Gymnastics is absolutely a sport. It just isn’t a competitive sport. It is a judgement sport. You cannot call anything a competition if a 3rd party is determining the winner based upon their opinion.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20364 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

. It just isn’t a competitive sport. It is a judgement sport. You cannot call anything a competition if a 3rd party is determining the winner based upon their opinion.

Case in point, boxing. There have been Olympic matches, such as what happened to Roy Jones Jr. He simply was not going to win unless he knocked out that Korean, and even then there was probably the Evander Holyfield potential (Holyfield was killing everyone, then in the medal round the ref jumped in as Holyfield was in the process of knocking that guy out. Holyfield was DQ'ed).
Posted by SaveFarris
Member since Apr 2012
1713 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:19 am to
quote:

Oh yeah, what about baseball? Is that a real sport?


Baseball is a sport.
Gymnastics is an athletic competition. There's no objective metrics. (Cross Home Plate. Put the Ball in the Hoop. Knock the Pins Down, etc.)
Posted by chimesstreet
Bucks County, PA
Member since Jan 2008
1282 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:01 am to
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Gymnastics is absolutely a sport. It just isn’t a competitive sport. It is a judgement sport.


I think it is subjective vs objective.

Gymnastics is absolutely competitive, but the scoring is subjective rather than objective.

Non-competitive sport would be things that are un-scored, with no winners.
Posted by LSUHusker
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2019
44 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:46 pm to
If we’re using the same metrics as some here, then no.

A gymnast on the balance beam has certain skills that have to be hit to gain parts of their total score. Those skills are either hit or they’re not. Just as a ball is either fair or foul in baseball. Doesn’t mean that sometimes an umpire’s opinion about fair/foul or safe/out doesn’t come into play.
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