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re: Great performance tonight for LSU baseball!
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:26 am to JayDeerTay84
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:26 am to JayDeerTay84
quote:So YOU made the point that the season is not going as expected not the OP. Yet you kept saying it was the OP who said the season was not going as expected. So now you're just trying to save face by being totally dishonest about what the OP wrote. That's truly sad.
Your reading comprehension is bad. I disagreed with the OP's point that the season is as expected back in Feb.
ETA: I just went back and re-read your first reply to the OP. You didn't bring up anything about this season going or not going as expected. In a subsequent post to another poster you mentioned Lange and Poche having more losses than what you expected. And that's it about "expectations." You're not being honest.
quote:Nah, your incorrect statements about our hitting "struggles" are not supported by historic or current statistics. We're actually currently ranked second in the SEC in batting average behind only Kentucky. So don't try to cover up your other really dumb statements other than your dumbest one about "losing almost all midweek games."
there is no fallacy other than the one exaggeration of midweek games.
quote:I don't call it negative. I call it being willfully ignorant as to the facts and then posting misinformation on this board based on your ignorance.
Call it negative, whatever you want.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 11:35 am
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:32 am to LSURussian
quote:
So YOU made the point that the season is not going as expected not the OP. Yet you kept saying it was the OP who said the season was not going as expected. So now you're just trying to save face by being totally dishonest about what the OP wrote. That's truly sad.
I disagreed with the OP. Is it really that difficult of a concept for you? No I didn't keep saying that. You just missread what I said.
This was my very second post:
"I mean, the OP said this is where we wanted to be in Feb. No, I did not expect Lange or Poche to have this many losses. "
There is "no saving face" I said it in plain text. You just didn't read it or glossed over it.
quote:
Nah, you're incorrect statements about our hitting "struggles" are not supported by historic or current statistics. We're actually currently ranked second in the SEC in batting average behind only Kentucky. So don't try to cover up your other really dumb statements other than your dumbest one about "losing almost all midweek games."
We had inconsistent hitting last year as well.
I mean, I am glad we are second behind Kentucky, but they took us to the woodshed. So I am not sure what consolation that gives you....
I never covered up the "midweek" comment. I have no problem saying I was clearly exaggerating.
quote:
I don't call it negative. I call it being willfully ignorant as to the facts and then posting misinformation on this board based on your ignorance.
The only fallacy is that last years stats have any baring on my quality as a fan or how this seasons post season will go.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:35 am to JayDeerTay84
Call it what you want, but we have left large sums of base runners on this year. I dont really care to go back and evaluate every single year and compare, but yea we get hits, cool. We are losing some of these games because we aren't getting runners home.
I think at one time frame this year it was like 14 or so runners left on in scoring position.
I think at one time frame this year it was like 14 or so runners left on in scoring position.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:42 am to JayDeerTay84
quote:See my edit above. I'm not going to repeat it.
I disagreed with the OP. Is it really that difficult of a concept for you? No I didn't keep saying that. You just missread what I said.
quote:They won the series 2-1. That's not taking us "to the woodshed." Did we take South Carolina to the woodshed last week when we won that series 2-1?
I am glad we are second behind Kentucky, but they took us to the woodshed.
What is it with you and your exaggerating statements to make LSU's season appear worse than it is?
I'm starting to share the opinion of the above poster who wrote that your life must suck if you have to make exaggerating statements putting down the LSU baseball team just so you can feel better about your life.
So you can now include me in your "you people" statement....
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:45 am to JayDeerTay84
quote:OMG!! Alert the media!!! You've just discovered a new aspect of college baseball!! A team doesn't get enough runners home and that's causing that team to lose games! And this is the first time in history any baseball team has done that!
We are losing some of these games because we aren't getting runners home.
Our way of viewing baseball is now forever changed!
Thank you for teaching us!
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:52 am to LSURussian
Lol. Go look at the UK series scores. You know what woodshed means.
It's not an exaggeration. They outscored us by a large margin.
It's not an exaggeration. They outscored us by a large margin.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 11:53 am
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:55 am to JayDeerTay84
And it's not a put down to think we won't go as far as last season. Don't be a child.
Edit. Like what is it with people thinking those who don't "think" LSU will win it all is somehow unhappy with life or it makes them "feel better" about themselves?
What kind of childish attitude do you have to have to make that argument?
Why would I, as an LSU fan, pay money for all the traveling, tickets, and time spent watching all LSU sports and still wish them to fail?
Lol. Yea I am the only one exaggerating.
Edit. Like what is it with people thinking those who don't "think" LSU will win it all is somehow unhappy with life or it makes them "feel better" about themselves?
What kind of childish attitude do you have to have to make that argument?
Why would I, as an LSU fan, pay money for all the traveling, tickets, and time spent watching all LSU sports and still wish them to fail?
Lol. Yea I am the only one exaggerating.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:12 pm to LSURussian
No the real problem is timely hitting which if you look at the numbers I'm certain they are down by a good margin. I'm just basing this off of what I see though, don't have time to look up the numbers but I bet they are down. Even last years numbers weren't extremely good as for hitting with men ISP. Any drop off would hurt
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:16 pm to kciDAtaE
I like the talent level. I just have concern over PM consistently leaving pitchers in too long over the years; as well as lack of production with runners on base.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:29 pm to BayouBengal99
quote:I would really like to see those numbers, too.
the real problem is timely hitting which if you look at the numbers I'm certain they are down by a good margin.
My guess is they are not statistically significantly different from what they've been in previous seasons or from what other SEC teams' stats are.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:42 pm to LSURussian
i'm sure someone like astro has them.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:47 pm to MorbidTheClown
quote:
i'm sure someone like astro has them.
Astro is likely not focused on LSU baseball at this moment.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:41 pm to LSURussian
Here are some SEC only numbers
Year-- Avg AB-- R-- H-- 2B 3B HR BB SO--- SB-ATT
(2017).270 844- 137 228 42 2- 16- 99 156- 23-32
(2016).305 1044 185 318 48 8- 21 111 145- 40-60
After 25 games this is the comparison from 2016 to 2017. Keep in mind we have played 83% of our conference games to date. Last year's stats are based on 30 SEC games so the numbers are larger for that reason alone.
Notable differences:
Batting average 35 points lower than last year.
Runs- we averaged 6.17 runs/game last year.5.48 this year.
Hits 10.6/G last year 9.12/G this year
Doubles, homers, and walks close; triples higher in 2016.
Strikeouts-4.83/G last year, 6.24 this year.
Stolen Bases- 1.33/G in 2016, .92/G in 2017 and far fewer attempts.
RBIs weren't on the stat sheet I found so I looked that up-
RBIs 2017 126 or 5.04/G
RBIs 2106 164 or 5.47/G
There is no question or stats are down from last year in SEC play. .69 runs/G doesn't sound like much but it adds up over time.
Here is how we fared last year compared to this year in Conf. Games only
Cat. 2016 2017
Ave. 1st 5th
Runs 2nd 2nd
RBIs 2nd 2nd
Hits 3rd 3rd
Slg% 3rd 8th
OB% 1st 2nd
Doub 8th T4th
Trip T2 T8th
HRs 8th 11th
BBs 6th 5th
Ks 14th 14th (best in league)
SBs 1st 4th
Make of it as you wish, but we are obviously down across the board and the fans see this; however, compared to the league we aren't down that much.
Year-- Avg AB-- R-- H-- 2B 3B HR BB SO--- SB-ATT
(2017).270 844- 137 228 42 2- 16- 99 156- 23-32
(2016).305 1044 185 318 48 8- 21 111 145- 40-60
After 25 games this is the comparison from 2016 to 2017. Keep in mind we have played 83% of our conference games to date. Last year's stats are based on 30 SEC games so the numbers are larger for that reason alone.
Notable differences:
Batting average 35 points lower than last year.
Runs- we averaged 6.17 runs/game last year.5.48 this year.
Hits 10.6/G last year 9.12/G this year
Doubles, homers, and walks close; triples higher in 2016.
Strikeouts-4.83/G last year, 6.24 this year.
Stolen Bases- 1.33/G in 2016, .92/G in 2017 and far fewer attempts.
RBIs weren't on the stat sheet I found so I looked that up-
RBIs 2017 126 or 5.04/G
RBIs 2106 164 or 5.47/G
There is no question or stats are down from last year in SEC play. .69 runs/G doesn't sound like much but it adds up over time.
Here is how we fared last year compared to this year in Conf. Games only
Cat. 2016 2017
Ave. 1st 5th
Runs 2nd 2nd
RBIs 2nd 2nd
Hits 3rd 3rd
Slg% 3rd 8th
OB% 1st 2nd
Doub 8th T4th
Trip T2 T8th
HRs 8th 11th
BBs 6th 5th
Ks 14th 14th (best in league)
SBs 1st 4th
Make of it as you wish, but we are obviously down across the board and the fans see this; however, compared to the league we aren't down that much.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:20 pm to JayDeerTay84
Could you be a bigger pussy?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 6:35 pm to TigerBait2008
Isn't that cool. Talking shite on the internet.
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