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re: Good lord people, stratigizing is season long.

Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:21 am to
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:21 am to
To all the jackass's wanting to jump off the bridge fans. New flash here!!! We had two, two huge big time TD's called back because of penalties and a hand full of other big plays. We shot ourselves in the foot with penalties. Can we please for the love of God let the rest of the season play out and take a freaking chill pill
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 9:29 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59651 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:24 am to
I like our offense.
LSU football is a fistfight in the ditch. You win some you lose some
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:25 am to
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dreaux
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Motherfrickers...we're still unpredictable. We come out against auburn thowing on first and second with different players/formations and we're totally unpredictable. We were not losing last night.

I will ban myself after almost 10 years if we have the same game plan and not more balanced then last night against AU.

Not that hard to figure out. We proved we can do it. First game, on the road, second REAL start, MSU lost half it's team, AU next week etc etc. Good God



While I'm impressed with the variation of formations and personnel groupings (and that's admittedly something I'm quite pleased with), the playcalling run/pass was extremely consistent with what we saw the majority of the year last year.

If we don't show diversity of playcalling, we won't develop the passing game, and then the playcalling becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy: You can't develop what you don't try and run.

78/22 is way, way, way away from where we need to be, and the opportunity to reach the balance we need to compete for championships doesn't get easier to find the further into the season we get.

I hope the OP is right and that we do show diversity in playcalling on Saturday afternoon. I hope we do show a willingness to throw the ball more often and develop that balance for our offense. Because there's no doubting we need it. We've all seen what happens when all we can do is rush the ball.
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 8:26 am
Posted by RightWingTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
5302 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:46 am to
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If LF would have carried the ball 15 times and BH would have thrown 2 picks the negatigers would have been feasting on Less and Cam for that reason


You are 100% correct sir! Lets say we come out against Auburn and do what we did against MSU in the first quarter and a half - up 14 or 17 - and then Les & Cam decide to "open up" the offense and low and behold our first year starter at QB throws a pick six or two and Auburn comes back and beats us. The same people killing Les and Cam about running too much and calling Les an idiot / moron / ball less POS will absolutely be on here calling Les an idiot / moron / ball less POS for not giving the ball to the best RB in college football and pounding Auburn into the ground while eating clock!

People that hate Miles give him no way out and they will never give him the credit for any success the team has - period!!
Posted by KennabraTiger
Kenner, LA
Member since Sep 2013
6505 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:50 am to
Strategery
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:52 am to
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I will ban myself after almost 10 years if we have the same game plan and not more balanced then last night against AU.


Quoted.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:05 am to
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Lets say we come out against Auburn and do what we did against MSU in the first quarter and a half - up 14 or 17 - and then Les & Cam decide to "open up" the offense


the "and then" part is where you run your train off the tracks. People (i.e. me) don't necessarily want to open it up they just would like to see more of "what we did against MSU in the first quarter and a half". jUST CONTINUE DOING THAT MORE OR LESS INSTEAD OF CRAWLING UP IN a shell. (cap locks accident sorry). What do you mean by 'then open it up' . I consider what we did in the 1st q and a half to be 'opening it up' (for LSU at least it is 'opening it up', for any one else it is just normal relatively conservative football). Haven't seen anyone calling for REALLY opening it up. It would be great but is not possible to happen at LSU.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:06 am to
So it was Les' strategy for MSU to miss a game winning field goal after a delay of game.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:18 am to
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You are 100% correct sir! Lets say we come out against Auburn and do what we did against MSU in the first quarter and a half - up 14 or 17 - and then Les & Cam decide to "open up" the offense and low and behold our first year starter at QB throws a pick six or two and Auburn comes back and beats us. The same people killing Les and Cam about running too much and calling Les an idiot / moron / ball less POS will absolutely be on here calling Les an idiot / moron / ball less POS for not giving the ball to the best RB in college football and pounding Auburn into the ground while eating clock!

People that hate Miles give him no way out and they will never give him the credit for any success the team has - period!!






Jeremy Johnson has thrown 6 ints in two games, but some how some way Auburn won. Go figure. Y'all act like throwing ints is the end all say all. Miles has ruined some of y'all. What it the difference in Harris throwing a 35 yard int and one of Keehn's horrible punts? Trying to protect Harris from throwing picks is ridiculous. The sooner he gets them out his system the better. Like someone said earlier y'all just simply chose to ignore how close we were to losing that game.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:27 am to
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if we have the same game plan and not more balanced then last night against AU.


that's the thing many do not realize. we have a GAME PLAN and that plan is decided on by the staff after watching film of the opponent. we thought we could beat MSU with the running game and we did (barely). that was IN SPITE OF the fact that MSU's defensive weakness was their secondary and their strength was their DL.

my guess (and hope) is that we will have a differnet plan for auburn; they have a very good DL and we are going to have to pass to win.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6373 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:34 am to
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Jeremy Johnson has thrown 6 ints in two games, but some how some way Auburn won. Go figure. Y'all act like throwing ints is the end all say all.


Auburn just went to overtime with Jacksonville State. At home.

Don't act like Harris throwing two or three picks on the road against an SEC team would have been the same thing.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:43 am to
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Don't act like Harris throwing two or three picks on the road against an SEC team would have been the same thing.


but he didn't even throw one interception. If he would have continued to throw possibly he would have possible he wouldn't have. If you drive a car you could possibly get in a wreck, this doesn't keep you from driving.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6373 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:50 am to
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but he didn't even throw one interception. If he would have continued to throw possibly he would have possible he wouldn't have. If you drive a car you could possibly get in a wreck, this doesn't keep you from driving.


The play calling wasn't great from the second quarter on. I don't think anyone is claiming it was. But to use a different QB from a different team that played different opponents in different situations doesn't make a very good point.

Simple fact is that Les Miles will not let Brandon Harris lose a game, especially on the road. That being said, I expect a different game plan at home than what we saw Saturday. If we don't see that, then maybe all these redundant threads will be appropriate.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:57 am to
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Auburn just went to overtime with Jacksonville State. At home.

Don't act like Harris throwing two or three picks on the road against an SEC team would have been the same thing.




What the frick is the difference between punting and throwing picks? Punting away every fricking series might as well be a turnover. Y'all slay me.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:59 am to
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Simple fact is that Les Miles will not let Brandon Harris lose a game, especially on the road. That being said, I expect a different game plan at home than what we saw Saturday. If we don't see that, then maybe all these redundant threads will be appropriate.



But he is willing to let Keehn lose the game???

Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30259 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 10:01 am to
You act as if you knew that the filed goal would be a miss.

Should have never gotten to that point.

Had he made the field goal; the pumpers would still be out in full force.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30259 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 10:03 am to
Ps

Strategizing is a year long thing. It does t start in August.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6373 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 10:24 am to
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What the frick is the difference between punting and throwing picks? Punting away every fricking series might as well be a turnover. Y'all slay me.


For one, a punt is a planned and prepared for event. I doubt there are many teams that spend much, if any, time practicing int return coverage.

Interceptions also don't occur solely on 3rd and long.
Posted by keeper05
BR
Member since Feb 2007
379 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 10:43 am to
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You are 100% correct sir! Lets say we come out against Auburn and do what we did against MSU in the first quarter and a half - up 14 or 17 - and then Les & Cam decide to "open up" the offense and low and behold our first year starter at QB throws a pick six or two and Auburn comes back and beats us. The same people killing Les and Cam about running too much and calling Les an idiot / moron / ball less POS will absolutely be on here calling Les an idiot / moron / ball less POS for not giving the ball to the best RB in college football and pounding Auburn into the ground while eating clock!


Thing is, it isn't one or the other. You don't have to either throw it all around the field or predominantly run the ball. There are choices in between. People, for the most part, are not advocating this wide open offense. They are advocating balance. Miles operated just like he did last year with a 48% completion rate. Harris had 60+ completion percentage. It warranted more opportunity.
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