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re: Good analysis of our offensive backfield...
Posted on 8/3/10 at 12:41 pm to WelcomeToDeathValley
Posted on 8/3/10 at 12:41 pm to WelcomeToDeathValley
guy is a legit 225, how is that a understatement? Moreno was 200 at UGA and grew into 215, and we don't know how fast this kid is, do we?
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Posted on 8/3/10 at 12:58 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Been told by someone within the program that Ware is "far and away the most talented RB
Was Ware an early enrollee for the spring? Was he even in Baton Rouge for summer workouts? Not trying to discredit yor post or anything, I just honestly don't know if Ware has even been with the team yet.
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He said it will be very difficult for this guy to redshirt because he's that damn good.
I think redshirting Ware is an important issue. If you redshirt Ware, then he is a RS Fr when Hill, Hillard, and Magee all come to LSU, creating almost a logjam of RBs at LSU.
If you don't redshirt Ware, you would almost waste a year of eligibility when it currently looks like Ford, Ridley and Murphy will get the majority of the carries.
Posted on 8/3/10 at 1:03 pm to south bama tiger
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I think redshirting Ware is an important issue. If you redshirt Ware, then he is a RS Fr when Hill, Hillard, and Magee all come to LSU, creating almost a logjam of RBs at LSU.
If you don't redshirt Ware, you would almost waste a year of eligibility when it currently looks like Ford, Ridley and Murphy will get the majority of the carries.
This may be what started the rumor about what Miles was doing in Ohio last weekend.
Posted on 8/3/10 at 2:50 pm to south bama tiger
Speaking as a Leesville native, I hope Michael Ford gets his carries and excels in this backfield.
And at the same time, I hope he starts to overwrite the Cecil Collins debacle.
And at the same time, I hope he starts to overwrite the Cecil Collins debacle.
Posted on 8/3/10 at 2:52 pm to tubucoco
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Moreno was 200 at UGA and grew into 215, and we don't know how fast this kid is, do we?
Moreno ran a 4.48 coming out, Ware ran about a 4.7 according to recruiting sites. Knowshon wasnt 200 coming out of high school either (Sites had him as high as 210 and Ware as low as 215). My point is he is nothing like Moreno as a RB, I think most will agree. If anything Gore and Murphy are more like Knowshon than anyone based on their style.
As I said before I hope Ware is a beast, Moreno isnt on our team.
This post was edited on 8/3/10 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 8/3/10 at 2:55 pm to TigahTigahWoodsYall
I think we should implement some sort of pro set in which we can have multiples of these guys on the field at the same time. This also allows you to put RS in the slot and motion him for carries as well.
This is a simple offense to run, you almost always have a lead blocker for your back and you must contend with the talent we have on the field.
Edit: As to comparisons of Ware to other backs, I actually think he is more comparable to someone like Mark Ingram or maybe Ronnie Brown...obviously both studs.
As of the moment, I don't see a FB on the roster that invokes fear in D-Coors across the league. However, you put Ware and Ford in a split proset backfield with Shep in the slot, RR on one end and TT on the other and they have many things to worry about.
This is a simple offense to run, you almost always have a lead blocker for your back and you must contend with the talent we have on the field.
Edit: As to comparisons of Ware to other backs, I actually think he is more comparable to someone like Mark Ingram or maybe Ronnie Brown...obviously both studs.
As of the moment, I don't see a FB on the roster that invokes fear in D-Coors across the league. However, you put Ware and Ford in a split proset backfield with Shep in the slot, RR on one end and TT on the other and they have many things to worry about.
This post was edited on 8/3/10 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 8/3/10 at 3:02 pm to south bama tiger
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I think redshirting Ware is an important issue. If you redshirt Ware, then he is a RS Fr when Hill, Hillard, and Magee all come to LSU, creating almost a logjam of RBs at LSU.
If you don't redshirt Ware, you would almost waste a year of eligibility when it currently looks like Ford, Ridley and Murphy will get the majority of the carries.
I like your first statement better than the second
If he's that good then play the man... esp since it'll create spacing between him and the next class. Murphy is a senior, Ridley is a junior right? Having an experienced Ware as a sophomore and Ford as a RS Soph in 2011 sounds just fine to me
But bottom line play Ware if he's that good... no one can complain if they were fairly beaten out
Posted on 8/3/10 at 3:05 pm to south bama tiger
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Was Ware an early enrollee for the spring? Was he even in Baton Rouge for summer workouts? Not trying to discredit yor post or anything, I just honestly don't know if Ware has even been with the team yet.
Been working out in BR all summer.
Posted on 8/3/10 at 3:44 pm to south bama tiger
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If you don't redshirt Ware, you would almost waste a year of eligibility when it currently looks like Ford, Ridley and Murphy will get the majority of the carries.
I can't think of a year where we used less than 4 RB, and even modest game time this year will make him better prepared for next year.
Posted on 8/3/10 at 3:50 pm to DocBugbear
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I can't think of a year where we used less than 4 RB, and even modest game time this year will make him better prepared for next year
as the article stated Wilson yanked RB on and off pretty frequently, Id say we definitely use 4 on a regular basis with the guys we have at RB.
My guess is Gore will be the one to get redshirted unless something happens.
Posted on 8/3/10 at 4:36 pm to molsusports
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If he's that good then play the man... esp since it'll create spacing between him and the next class. Murphy is a senior, Ridley is a junior right? Having an experienced Ware as a sophomore and Ford as a RS Soph in 2011 sounds just fine to me
ware looked good as a blocking FB too. i know its somewhat a waste of his talent, but being a freshman, perhaps he could get a little time at FB as well to give him some extra experience. that is, of course, if he doesnt get redshirted.
Posted on 8/3/10 at 7:11 pm to WelcomeToDeathValley
quote:because you where there to personally time him in HS, right?
Moreno ran 4.48 coming out
quote:and we all know we can trust all the recruiting sites info, right again?
Ware ran about a 4.7 according to recruiting sites.
quote:it was a fact he was a 195-200 lb back comin out of HS that just ran tough, he built himself up at UGA to 215. Ware is a legit 225 and moves like a much smaller back.
Knowshon wasn't 200 comin out of HS either
quote:so for you are the only one that agrees with your own assesssment, this kid has the same shiftyness as Moreno, watch the HS video highlights again, and he will lower his shoulder and use his power like Moreno when approached, that's why I said he is a bigger, faster version because by the time he leaves LSU he may be running sub 4.4's.
My point is he is nothing like Moreno as a RB, I think most will agree.
This post was edited on 8/3/10 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 8/3/10 at 7:14 pm to DeltaDoc
Ronnie Brown doesn't move like this kid, this kid is elusive for his size. I just hope LSU uses him correctly and doesn't waste his skills like they have done with past RB's.
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