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re: Give credit to Matt Canada offense

Posted on 9/19/17 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by grape nutz
sesame street
Member since Mar 2006
2764 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 7:58 pm to
He didn't need to.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3944 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:16 pm to
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Etling just gotta have time in the pocket to throw


Etling is going to have to adapt to the time he's got (speed up his clock). He's going to get rushed, but he still has to find a way to be successful. On 29 pass attempts, he was hurried 6 times and sacked twice. 13 were completed. The rest were either drops or seeing ghosts.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 12:19 pm
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
5368 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:32 pm to
Until we start seeing results, they will be criticized.

But I'm not not going to waste much of my time arguing with someone on a message board who sounds practically illiterate.
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:38 pm to
Yeah, look at how Canada has Guice lined up 7 to 8 yards deep in the backfield with no lead blocker.

He has to run 7 yards to get to the line of scrimmage. The defense isn't blind. A hole only lasts for a second and a rb has to hit it fast. MSU LBs had far too much time to read and react to any block as a result of the slow play development.

Look at the video of Guice when he got hurt and watch how the defense had so much time to fill gaps and how easy it was to read. A Fullback or Hback to block would help.

The play design is a little bit too slow for SEC caliber players.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 12:45 pm
Posted by M0NTESAN0
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2016
395 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:53 pm to
Guice don't have a lead blocker
Like a Fullback that just tell you how good Guice is.cause he has good vision to find the gap in his own Fournette always had a lead blocker and fournette vision isnt as good as guice
Posted by M0NTESAN0
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2016
395 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:56 pm to
I know I have more football knowledge than you I actually played the sport unlike some of you LSU fans so
Posted by LSU FREAK
Meridian, Ms
Member since Jan 2005
1567 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:15 pm to
At the end of the day the offensive scheme doesn't matter if you can't block. Blocking doesn't matter if your receivers can't catch. Catching doesn't matter if the play is nullified by penalties. This loss wasn't due to a poor gamelan. It was due to poor execution. If you grew up playing sports then you know there are games where nothing goes your way and you get your arse handed to you. The real test of this team and coaches is to see how they respond.
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:26 pm to
Look at video of Guice running behind JD Moore vs A&M last year and watch how many times JD Moore made a block which sprung Guice.

Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:35 pm to
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I know I have more football knowledge than you I actually played the sport unlike some of you LSU fans so


Want to know what smart people don't do? They don't repeatedly tell other people how smart they are. They are smart enough to understand other smart people will deduce that fact on their own.

They also don't end sentences with the word "so"
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61272 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

At the end of the day the offensive scheme doesn't matter if you can't block.


False. Gary Patterson changed tcu 's offense because his OL was losing the line of scrimmage when tcu first got into the big 12. Now you see the result of that change and tcu certainly isn't pulling in top OL talent nor sending it to the league.


How do you think a school like ole miss competed and sometimes beat Alabama despite bama having multiple top draft picks on their DL?

HINT:It wasn't because OL overpowered bama at the line of scrimmage.


Ole Miss employed a spread up tempo offense with multiple quick reads that negated Bama advantages on the line.




LSU stupidly tried to match up with Bama on the line while having a slow paced offense and you saw the result of that. LSU never had a chance.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 2:21 pm
Posted by treyb4324
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2006
1077 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Why do I have to use punctuations as long you know


Just to be honest, actually I had to read your post twice to understand. Don't want to be a grammar Nazi, but its not just the punctuation that makes it hard to understand...
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

I know I have more football knowledge than you I actually played the sport unlike some of you LSU fans so


It shows. CTE is real.
Posted by Ty Gus
Southlake, TX
Member since Apr 2013
234 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88775 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

LSU stupidly tried to match up with Bama on the line while having a slow paced offense and you saw the result of that. LSU never had a chance.

Not to mention the quicker route concepts
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6373 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

Guice don't have a lead blocker
Like a Fullback that just tell you how good Guice is.cause he has good vision to find the gap in his own Fournette always had a lead blocker and fournette vision isnt as good as guice



And he's posting a lower per carry average than he did last year, when he had a fullback. Over 2 yards per carry.
Posted by LSU49er
Bastrop, LA
Member since Aug 2017
664 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:03 pm to
Lol beat me to it
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10092 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

Guice don't have a lead blocker
Like a Fullback that just tell you how good Guice is.cause he has good vision to find the gap in his own Fournette always had a lead blocker and fournette vision isnt as good as guice
Truth is Guice and Fournette flourished in Miles offense, now the run game is struggling in the new offense, down 1ypc from previous 2 years, with only 2 runs of 20+ including a long of 25yds.
Downvote away, but I yearn for some power lead toss with Guice running free in second level. If you know football, that was some nicely orchestrated stuff.
Posted by M0NTESAN0
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2016
395 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:16 pm to
Yeah sure power lead toss against Alabama and that junk gets shut down like always you can get away with power toss against other teams
Posted by M0NTESAN0
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2016
395 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:22 pm to
You guys don't like change thats all the Offensive run scheme aint made to break out big runs nothing is possible without your O-line
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10092 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:23 pm to
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Yeah sure power lead toss against Alabama and that junk gets shut down like always you can get away with power toss against other teams
A lot of plays from a lot of different type offenses get shut down by Bama.
Crazy how they're in the CFP every year.
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