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re: Georgia's Run Defense
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:43 pm to la_birdman
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:43 pm to la_birdman
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It was Kentucky. Kentucky! The freaking doormat of the SEC. Georgia couldn't tear them at home?
You're reaching with your excuses. Those same walk ons played against Boise? Vanderbilt?
I'm not coming with excuses, we needed wins and we got them. Come Saturday, our best team will play your best team. If we played at the beginning of the season, you would've throttled us by 40. Now that we're playing at the end of the season with so many of our playmakers maturing, I think you guys win by 4. Good lord it's impossible for you tiger ranters to look at anything objectively. Don't even know why i try
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Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:48 pm to IMATIGERFAN
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Not that impressed with them. They gave up over 200 yards to SC
That's with Lattimore, man.
UGA plays defense, particularly run defense, better than Arkansas. We will run on them, but we ran on Bama. Running on UGA means we're good, not necessarily that they are bad.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:48 pm to GregYoureMyBoyBlue
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it's impossible for you tiger ranters to look at anything objectively. Don't even know why i try
Because you keep posting such ridiculous claims. If Georgia was the same Georgia that they used to be, the would've blown past Florida, Auburn, TN, Vandy, Kentucky. Certainly that Boise game would have had a different outcome.
Georgia is a good team, no where did I say they weren't. You are on a 10 game win streak, not a small item to be sure, but only 2 of those teams were ranked and they were lucky to even be ranked.
Win by 4? To a team that let Vandy drop 28 on it. I have my doubts about it being that close.
You do know what website you're on, right? You expected something different?
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:54 pm to la_birdman
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It was Kentucky. Kentucky! The freaking doormat of the SEC. Georgia couldn't tear them at home?
We lost to Kentucky in 2007. UGA has found ways to win. That cannot be overstated.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:58 pm to Ace Midnight
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We lost to Kentucky in 2007.
A game that was 4 years ago? Really?
Andre Woodson was their QB. That made all the difference in the world for them. After that year they were back to being Kentucky.
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UGA has found ways to win.
Against 8 unranked teams. This cannot be overstated.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 4:03 pm to la_birdman
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Against 8 unranked teams. This cannot be overstated.
I didn't say I ranked them higher than 4th in the SEC - I think that if Arkansas lines up against UGA on a neutral field, Arkanasas beats them. However, that does not mean we beat UGA by 24 points, or even ensure victory.
UGA plays run defense better than Arkansas - whether they can do better against us, and if so by how much, remains to be seen.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 4:27 pm to GregYoureMyBoyBlue
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There are 6 common opponents with UGA and LSU (Ole Miss, Miss St, Auburn, Kentucky, Tennessee, & Florida).
Over those 6 games, UGA gave up 9 fewer first downs (68 to 77).
UGA gave up 9 more total yards (1252 to 1243).
UGA gave up 484 more passing yards (1127 to 643).
UGA gave up 460 fewer rushing yards (122 to 582).
UGA had a MUCH better opponents 3rd down conversion ratio (23.17% to 32.05%) or (19 out of 82 versus 25 out of 78).
UGA created 2 more turnovers (14 to 12)
UGA had the ball a WHOPPING 16:57 more in time of possession.
UGA held the opponents to 1 fewer rushing TD (1 versus 2)
UGA hed the opponents to a MUCH lower rushing per attempt average (0.8 versus 2.77)
UGA gave up 2 more passing TDs than LSU (4 versus 2).
UGA had 7 more sacks (28 versus 21).
UGA had 1 fewer INT (7 versus 8).
Despite UGA's massive advantage against the run game, UGA was also very close to LSU in the opposing QB efficiency rating.
Against Ole Miss (52.37 for LSU and 79.39 for UGA).
Against Miss St (91.38 for LSU and 85.43 for UGA).
Against Auburn (106.35 for LSU and 110.41 for UGA).
Against Kentucky (63.38 for LSU and 81.19 for UGA).
Against Florida (104.38 for LSU and 105.53 for UGA).
Against Tennessee (63.76 for LSU and 115.90 for UGA).
:csb:
But what about that silly irrelevant stat called points? UGA D gave up 31 more of those annoying things.
The UGA O scoring vs same comp?
You prolly don't want to go there.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 4:57 pm to dreaux
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Posted by dreaux It will be closer then people think.
If people keep saying this about every game it'll eventually be true.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:23 pm to geauxjo
+1
Posted on 11/30/11 at 7:23 pm to IMATIGERFAN
Maybe some of you LSU fans are just acting dumb...because the thread title is "Georgia's Run Defense....yet, when it is revealed that UGA's run defense is much better than LSU's against the 6 common opponents, you want to talk about points scored.
Stick to the subject. Six common opponents. UGA gave up a combined 122yds (20.33 per game average) and LSU gave up 582yds (97 yds average per game).
Please, spin these rushing yards allowed stats against 6 common opponents as creatively as you can. Will be entertaining.
GT would have rushed for 300+ on LSU, just like GSU did on Bama, who has a better rush defense than both of us.
Stick to the subject. Six common opponents. UGA gave up a combined 122yds (20.33 per game average) and LSU gave up 582yds (97 yds average per game).
Please, spin these rushing yards allowed stats against 6 common opponents as creatively as you can. Will be entertaining.
GT would have rushed for 300+ on LSU, just like GSU did on Bama, who has a better rush defense than both of us.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 7:26 pm to Mayhawman
Thread is about "Georgia's Run Defense".
Start a thread about points if you want to win an argument. Stats against 6 common opponents do your argument no favor in this thread.
Start a thread about points if you want to win an argument. Stats against 6 common opponents do your argument no favor in this thread.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 7:34 pm to SthGADawg
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its gonna be a good game..not a blowout...LSU should win...but anything can happen...i dont think we will run the ball very well..but i dont think LSU does either...200 yards?...cmon...this is the SECCG...we arent ole miss...thats an absurd homeristic opinion if i have ever seen one...
I agree that anything could happen and that UGA will make it a close game(at least for 2 1/2 quarters), but why is 200 yds rushing so absurd when USC did it and Vandy almost did it? You need to realize we are better than those two teams..right?
Posted on 11/30/11 at 7:42 pm to Dirk Dawgler
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Maybe some of you LSU fans are just acting dumb...because the thread title is "Georgia's Run Defense....yet, when it is revealed that UGA's run defense is much better than LSU's against the 6 common opponents, you want to talk about points scored. Stick to the subject. Six common opponents. UGA gave up a combined 122yds (20.33 per game average) and LSU gave up 582yds (97 yds average per game). Please, spin these rushing yards allowed stats against 6 common opponents as creatively as you can. Will be entertaining. GT would have rushed for 300+ on LSU, just like GSU did on Bama, who has a better rush defense than both of us.
If our games against these weaker SEC opponents had been as close in score as your games were, we would have forced them to shut down the run also, but when you are up by 28 points...there is no need to play stifling defense. And by the way...we rushed for 150 on Bama and they rushed for less than 100yds on us.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 7:54 pm to chipd
Of course you are better. The USCe game, our rushing D held them to 130 yds, of which about 60 came on the last drive by Lattimore. No excuses...he brought it that last drive and we didn't stop him.
Vandy was really the only game where I felt that our rushing D didn't play well. They ran in some new formations that we hadn't seen on film and they had success.
But the point is that I could ask how LSU gave up over 100 yds to UT and UF while we held them collectively to -39. But...disregarding stats, I know for a fact that LSU has a great rushing defense. Just have to go to comparisons to actually dispell the "weak schedule" argument in as much as it pertains to our rushing defense. Half of our opponents were the same. In those games, UGA clearly dominates the rush yards allowed debate.
I could also say that those teams would probablly rushed for more against LSU had they not had to abandon the run to try and score quickly enough to get back in the games on the scoreboard.
Vandy was really the only game where I felt that our rushing D didn't play well. They ran in some new formations that we hadn't seen on film and they had success.
But the point is that I could ask how LSU gave up over 100 yds to UT and UF while we held them collectively to -39. But...disregarding stats, I know for a fact that LSU has a great rushing defense. Just have to go to comparisons to actually dispell the "weak schedule" argument in as much as it pertains to our rushing defense. Half of our opponents were the same. In those games, UGA clearly dominates the rush yards allowed debate.
I could also say that those teams would probablly rushed for more against LSU had they not had to abandon the run to try and score quickly enough to get back in the games on the scoreboard.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 7:57 pm to chipd
Chipd. Its usually the opposite. A team gets pass heavy, abandoning the run, when they are way down. Thats what happened in many of your games.
A team usually sticks to script of run/pass balance when they are within striking distance. Many of these teams were still trying to run on us late in the 4th quarter.
A team usually sticks to script of run/pass balance when they are within striking distance. Many of these teams were still trying to run on us late in the 4th quarter.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 7:58 pm to Mayhawman
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There are 6 common opponents with UGA and LSU (Ole Miss, Miss St, Auburn, Kentucky, Tennessee, & Florida).
Over those 6 games, UGA gave up 9 fewer first downs (68 to 77).
UGA gave up 9 more total yards (1252 to 1243).
UGA gave up 484 more passing yards (1127 to 643).
UGA gave up 460 fewer rushing yards (122 to 582).
UGA had a MUCH better opponents 3rd down conversion ratio (23.17% to 32.05%) or (19 out of 82 versus 25 out of 78).
UGA created 2 more turnovers (14 to 12)
UGA had the ball a WHOPPING 16:57 more in time of possession.
UGA held the opponents to 1 fewer rushing TD (1 versus 2)
UGA hed the opponents to a MUCH lower rushing per attempt average (0.8 versus 2.77)
UGA gave up 2 more passing TDs than LSU (4 versus 2).
UGA had 7 more sacks (28 versus 21).
UGA had 1 fewer INT (7 versus 8).
Despite UGA's massive advantage against the run game, UGA was also very close to LSU in the opposing QB efficiency rating.
Against Ole Miss (52.37 for LSU and 79.39 for UGA).
Against Miss St (91.38 for LSU and 85.43 for UGA).
Against Auburn (106.35 for LSU and 110.41 for UGA).
Against Kentucky (63.38 for LSU and 81.19 for UGA).
Against Florida (104.38 for LSU and 105.53 for UGA).
Against Tennessee (63.76 for LSU and 115.90 for UGA).
One thing forgotten is in the majority of our games, we've tried not to score in the 4th quarter because it was pointless. Only one time did we fail to keep it under 50 points which is Miles' desire. The scoring difference could be much more lopsided.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:01 pm to Will2nd
What does how many points you might ot might not have scored got to do with Georgia's run defense?
UGA could have scored 72 on AU...doesn't mean a thing in this thread.
UGA could have scored 72 on AU...doesn't mean a thing in this thread.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:10 pm to Will2nd
GA defense is strong and will be stout against our run game. Their offensive line is one of the biggest in the nation. A. Murray is a mobile QB and can throw on the run. Reid will be huge in this game and we must get pressure on the GA QB. We have to contain Murray as well. He will get 1st downs running if we do not contain. BUT Tigahs will beat them down in the dome!
LSU 31
Dawgs 23
LSU 31
Dawgs 23
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:10 pm to Dirk Dawgler
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Chipd. Its usually the opposite. A team gets pass heavy, abandoning the run, when they are way down. Thats what happened in many of your games. A team usually sticks to script of run/pass balance when they are within striking distance. Many of these teams were still trying to run on us late in the 4th quarter.
While true about the shift from rushing to passing..my point is more about overall yardage. In tight games, the defense is required to shut down the other team for 4 quarters...in less close games, this is not the case. For instance, the LSU-Oregon game. They gained over 150 yards and scored 2 TD's in the 4th quarter when LSU was up by more than 20 points and was playing a "prevent" defense. My guess is that if UGA had beaten Florida by 30 points, Florida would have had more yards rushing and passing, than they had when you only beat them by 1 score.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:11 pm to Ignignot
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Not gonna b a blowout
How many times have we said that about a game this year? At some point you have to think we really are that good
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