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Posted on 10/7/12 at 8:43 pm to SBC
I agree that the gameplan was fine... The only complaint I have is that when it was 3rd down and manageable from the 15 or so, we just handed it off up the middle. I understand that you don't want to try any crazy passes or anything that could lead to a turnover, but even running a draw if you want to run it would have given a better chance to get some reasonable yardage. I think a lot of people are also ignoring OBJ's fumble that would have put us in great position and could have turned Mett's confidence around.
I still like these calls a lot more than the Crowton 1st 2nd and 3rd down read option
I still like these calls a lot more than the Crowton 1st 2nd and 3rd down read option
Posted on 10/7/12 at 8:45 pm to SBC
Uh, no.
It's been the same gamelan for the last few games. Anyone who seen us play just a little knows this.
Stack the box, cut off the run. Make them throw downfield, only we don't. Or when we do, there's 5 min left in the game.
Throw deep on first down. Use Shep more. More innovative calls instead of running against a wall. Where's that reverse we did from Ridley to DeAngelo Peterson against Bama in 2010? What happened to that play?
Getting 3 yards is a huge chore. Or so it seems. It's not hard to plan for us when we constantly run the same plays game after game after game.
We average 9 points in SEC games. So how was the gameplan fine again?
It's been the same gamelan for the last few games. Anyone who seen us play just a little knows this.
Stack the box, cut off the run. Make them throw downfield, only we don't. Or when we do, there's 5 min left in the game.
Throw deep on first down. Use Shep more. More innovative calls instead of running against a wall. Where's that reverse we did from Ridley to DeAngelo Peterson against Bama in 2010? What happened to that play?
Getting 3 yards is a huge chore. Or so it seems. It's not hard to plan for us when we constantly run the same plays game after game after game.
We average 9 points in SEC games. So how was the gameplan fine again?
This post was edited on 10/8/12 at 12:01 am
Posted on 10/7/12 at 8:54 pm to la_birdman
We tried throwing deep several times this game if you look at the tape, but Mett rarely had time to throw deep. I agree w/ using Shep more, however... his last run from the backfield went for 70+ yards and a TD. But in any game, the other team will know the plays you're going to run based on formations, shifts, etc. That's the whole point of coaching on execution, which we don't seem to do. I'd love to see Miles yank OBJ off of the field after some of those plays and get in his face... but he's too much of a player's coach for that.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 8:56 pm to SBC
Just stop Les, we've heard enough of your bullshite.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 8:56 pm to The Egg
The Egg
So uhh...we didn't execute against UW in week 2? We beat them 41-3. How about Idaho week 3, 63-14 win there. I guess those results aren't good enough for you. I would really hate to try and live up to your standards.
So uhh...we didn't execute against UW in week 2? We beat them 41-3. How about Idaho week 3, 63-14 win there. I guess those results aren't good enough for you. I would really hate to try and live up to your standards.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 9:07 pm to lsujunior58
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we tried throwing deep several times this game if you look at the tape, but Mett rarely had time to throw deep
That's a failed gameplan. One we've run over and over and over and over.
We threw deep once, when OBJ got the ball ripped out.
Other than that, it was screens and slants.
We threw deep when we had no other choice and barely any time. There were at least 3, possibly 4 deep passes in a row with less than 5 min to go in the game.
We run the same plays. It was the same plays in the Auburn game, the same in the Towson game, the same in the North Texas game. We're way too predictable right now. Any opposing head coach with a tv knows this. We need to do what the other guy doesn't know.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 9:15 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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So uhh...we didn't execute against UW in week 2? We beat them 41-3. How about Idaho week 3, 63-14 win there. I guess those results aren't good enough for you. I would really hate to try and live up to your standards.
Those are good numbers, to be sure. However, anyone who was at those games, watched the games will tell you that they were hardly seemless.
You can say they are but you're kidding yourself (and this is coming from someone who is a huge defender of the coaches). Consider who we played, they shouldn't have scored at all.
Look at Auburn this past week, who got tuned up, at home, by a deplorable Arkansas team, we struggled to get 12 and a team that has totally derailed beat them up convincingly.
When nothing changes, you get what happened yesterday.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 9:35 pm to SBC
I don't care about a winning season. I am talking about Nat'l Championships. To win them, the team has to be sound in all phases of the game. Ask Bama about special teams last year. Bama used the pass & moved AJ around in the pocket last year to win the NC. We can run, run, run with our offense & win 80% of the games or we can have a balanced attack & play for a NC. What's it gonna be?
Posted on 10/7/12 at 9:36 pm to la_birdman
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Those are good numbers, to be sure. However, anyone who was at those games, watched the games will tell you that they were hardly seemless. You can say they are but you're kidding yourself (and this is coming from someone who is a huge defender of the coaches). Consider who we played, they shouldn't have scored at all.
quote:Im surprised to see you saying this, birdman, but it's 100% right.
quote: So uhh...we didn't execute against UW in week 2? We beat them 41-3. How about Idaho week 3, 63-14 win there. I guess those results aren't good enough for you. I would really hate to try and live up to your standards.
Those numbers are big, but LSU looked exploitable in each of those games, also against north Texas. It takes willful ignorance to see the offensive scheme as fine. Maybe the gameplan is fine, initially, but once the plan has proved ineffective over multiple series--adjustments must be made. LSU can't or won't adjust until desperation time, if then.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 9:36 pm to SBC
I am in complete agreement. That is how big SEC road games are planned.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 9:39 pm to SBC
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SBC
You have got to be shitting me
Posted on 10/7/12 at 9:42 pm to CajunBandit
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Those numbers are big, but LSU looked exploitable in each of those games, also against north Texas. It takes willful ignorance to see the offensive scheme as fine. Maybe the gameplan is fine, initially, but once the plan has proved ineffective over multiple series--adjustments must be made. LSU can't or won't adjust until desperation time, if then.
Exactly.
Think of the game and the season, who we're playing. Adjustments need to be made, depending on how the first half went, the opponent, and so forth.
No adjustments are being made. We're still using the same stuff we used 6 weeks ago, doesn't matter who the opponent is. And that was before all the injuries.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 9:44 pm to SBC
The players then have not been executing Les's offense for the last 5 years. We win because the defense usually scores. The offense executed on 3rd and 10 except they threw the screen to a 280LB FB who is able to get 6 yards after the catch not 10. Les has no game plan.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 9:48 pm to SBC
so what, exactly, was the game plan?
Posted on 10/7/12 at 9:51 pm to Xenophon
They shut down our run... CLM decided to keep on running
One deep pass, and one screen... that was it
simple as that
One deep pass, and one screen... that was it
simple as that
Posted on 10/7/12 at 9:58 pm to kaduceus
Posted on 10/7/12 at 9:58 pm to SBC
So basically if teams play to stop our running game we are fricked? Since passing on the road is not the answer.
Gameplan may not have sucked initially but when the defense is shutting you down you have to have an answer. It was 1/9 all over again.
Don't forget the D should get credit for one FG.
Gameplan may not have sucked initially but when the defense is shutting you down you have to have an answer. It was 1/9 all over again.
Don't forget the D should get credit for one FG.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:15 pm to Topwater Trout
I guess what many of you are missing is that LSU players cannot properly execute the most basic of game plan. thus, miles is unwilling to add the most innovative or complex items to the gameplan. you can argue whether this is correct logic on miles part but i believe this is what miles sees.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:23 pm to SBC
What if you don't have the personnel this year (due to injury) to execute your usual style or game plan. Then if you know you can't play that way this year and you don't modify the plan is that a good game plan?
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