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re: Former Ole Miss Pitcher on Bregman (Both drafted by Astros)
Posted on 6/13/15 at 10:01 pm to Mr.Perfect
Posted on 6/13/15 at 10:01 pm to Mr.Perfect
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Pure batting average doesn't tell the story buddy.
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 10:03 pm to Penrod
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Penrod
On behalf of my fellow tigerdroppings brethren... I'd like to offer up this dick for you to eat.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:42 am to Penrod
quote:geez dude, it's one guy's opinion and it bothers you this much? Bregs frick some chick you were trying to run game on at Bogies or something?
Penrod
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:53 am to LSUJay13
Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe it could be a situation where Bregman was that one guy that this particular pitcher just couldn't get out when he faced him, no matter what? Maybe this same pitcher had better success when he faced off against Swanson, so when he is asked, he thinks Bregman was the best hitter he faced?
Nah. That couldn't possibly be the case.
Nah. That couldn't possibly be the case.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:11 am to JakeFromStateFarm
That could be the case, Jake. Naturalbeam and MSG offer up some thoughtful possibilities also. 
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:33 am to Penrod
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:39 am to NaturalBeam
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geez dude, it's one guy's opinion and it bothers you this much? Bregs frick some chick you were trying to run game on at Bogies or something?
Bingo. This isn't about baseball at all. Penrod is mad at Bregs for something else. Fess up, you big vagina.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:47 am to Penrod
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He damn sure is not the best in the SEC.
HMMM...when is the last time you pitched to him?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 8:26 am to Gus Tinsley
1) I can't believe we are having an argument about a guy's opinion, it's his fricking opinion!
2) You can't make an argument about someone being better than someone because they were drafted ONE slot above them in the draft. That's just silly.
3) Swanson was always ahead of Bregman because they thought he was much more likely to stick at SS. Bregman proved this season he can play SS at an elite level.
Projecting future talent level is extremely hard to do in MLB and there isn't much evidence that teams are terribly good at it outside of the first half of the first round. Saying the best hitter he has faced was Alex is a perfectly plausible answer. Alex has great pitch recognition and they can be more frustrating to a pitcher than a guy that hammers a ball in the zone, one who constantly lays off good pitches just outside of the zone and always puts the ball in play.
2) You can't make an argument about someone being better than someone because they were drafted ONE slot above them in the draft. That's just silly.
3) Swanson was always ahead of Bregman because they thought he was much more likely to stick at SS. Bregman proved this season he can play SS at an elite level.
Projecting future talent level is extremely hard to do in MLB and there isn't much evidence that teams are terribly good at it outside of the first half of the first round. Saying the best hitter he has faced was Alex is a perfectly plausible answer. Alex has great pitch recognition and they can be more frustrating to a pitcher than a guy that hammers a ball in the zone, one who constantly lays off good pitches just outside of the zone and always puts the ball in play.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 8:42 am to Mr.Perfect
quote:
Pure batting average doesn't tell the story buddy.
what does?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:58 am to Penrod
quote:Given that one was 1 and the other was 2....I am pretty sure an argument could be made by either side on the superior player.
Since we're being sarcastic, I'm sure that MLB pitcher's (memo: he's not in the major leagues) opinion is more complete than the major league team that took Dansby Swanson AHEAD of Bregman! Dansby Swanson, who no one in the world, other than his dad, thinks is as good a fielder as Bregman. Why would they pick him ahead of Bregman? Hmmm, let's see, wow, this is a tough one...idiots!
But you said the player needed to be drug tested for his opinion that Bregman was a great hitter. It seems MLB agrees with that opinion as well. Or do you think they just took him second overall for shits and giggles.
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Hmmm, let's see, wow, this is a tough one...idiots!
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:04 am to Howyouluhdat
quote:RISP, slugging, OBP, strikeouts, e%extra base hits, there are a lot of numbers that matter in offensive baseball, batting average is very very important but there are a lot of hitters that are feared that don't lead the leagues in BA.
what does?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:09 am to JakeFromStateFarm
quote:of course, that passed thru the mind of everyone in about 1 second, that is not a novel thought.
Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe it could be a situation where Bregman was that one guy that this particular pitcher just couldn't get out when he faced him, no matter what? Maybe this same pitcher had better success when he faced off against Swanson, so when he is asked, he thinks Bregman was the best hitter he faced?
What dismisses that is the All American honors, finalists for the Golden Spike awards, playing on the USA team, and that crazy number 2 overall pick by the Astros.
I get the feeling that Bregman was more than just a pesky little hitter to a SEC pitcher.
quote:you are right, there is no possible way that is the case.
Nah. That couldn't possibly be the case.
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 10:11 am
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:10 am to LfcSU3520
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Swanson has more potential long term to be an elite hitter but since you're discussing right now, you're wrong.
RIGHT NOW: Swanson has a significantly higher batting average, a significantly higher slugging percentage, significantly higher home runs. And, although a worse infielder, Swanson was selected ahead of Bregman. WTF makes Bregman better at the plate than Swanson? He's SIGNIFICANTLY worse than Swanson at hitting. It's so ludicrous that anyone who is not an LSU fan would think you were joking. Are you?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:14 am to Howyouluhdat
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What does? (tell the story)
The "LSU" on the jersey
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:38 am to Penrod
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I'd have that guy drug tested if I ran the Astros. An argument could be made that Bregman is the best hitter on LSU's team, but it would not be an easy argument. He damn sure is not the best in the SEC.
We have another box score reader here!
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:50 am to Penrod
quote:So anyone that thinks the number 2 overall pick in the draft would be a great hitter should be 'drug tested'
The "LSU" on the jersey
And the only measurement that matters is batting average. Benintendi had like 14 other D1 outfielders lead him in average, I suppose he didn't deserve to be in the same league with those guys.
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 11:10 am
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:18 am to LSUJay13
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:39 am to Penrod
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RIGHT NOW: Swanson has a significantly higher batting average, a significantly higher slugging percentage, significantly higher home runs. And, although a worse infielder, Swanson was selected ahead of Bregman. WTF makes Bregman better at the plate than Swanson? He's SIGNIFICANTLY worse than Swanson at hitting. It's so ludicrous that anyone who is not an LSU fan would think you were joking. Are you?
Yeah, what does an MLB pitcher know?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:42 am to Penrod
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