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For the Coach O fans
Posted on 11/13/16 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 5:07 pm
If we do end up with him at HC, what would you consider his responsibility? What types of success/failures would be directly attributed to him? I already see the excuses from people saying he just needs to go out and get a good OC. What if the OC doesn't work? Will that be a failure on Coach O or a failure on the OC? There has to be some attributable form other than recruiting and motivation that he can be critiqued on. If not we'll just keep swapping out OC/DC and you guys will just say it wasn't a good fit if we don't do well.
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 5:17 pm to 7nette
They'll be to O what Beefense, Choctaw, Gray Tiger etc were to Les (but worse since O probably won't accomplish as much as Les did).
He won't be able to do any wrong, even when he's shitting the bed.
All the bad will be someone else's fault, and all the good will be because of O.
He won't be able to do any wrong, even when he's shitting the bed.
All the bad will be someone else's fault, and all the good will be because of O.
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 6:42 pm to 7nette
Come on man. Let it rest. It's in joes hands looking at the jones and Caldwell hire, I venture to say it want be someone close to being as good as coach o. I would take coach o tomorrow, not because I feel he's the guy for sure but because I fear it will be lots worse. Remember it's JA not skip
Posted on 11/13/16 at 6:56 pm to Skeeter07
I'm supporting CEO because he is loyal to Louisiana and not 'the tribe"...
Posted on 11/13/16 at 8:34 pm to Skeeter07
That's not the point, he has to have something we can point to and say that was due to Coach O good or bad. You can't just say you want him for recruiting and motivating the team then never blame him for losses. I'm ok with giving him credit for wins as long as people here also give him full blame for the losses.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 8:46 pm to 7nette
Do you blame O for his only loss??? 
Posted on 11/13/16 at 8:58 pm to Bayou
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Do you blame O for his only loss???
If he's getting credit for the wins then yes he should also get credit for the losses. If he's only getting credit for the wins and not the losses then he would never be at fault for anything.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:10 pm to 7nette
quote:I think his primary responsibility is making sure Mike's cage is cleaned daily
If we do end up with him at HC, what would you consider his responsibility?
quote:Successes could be making Nicholson wider at the Lee intersection so I don't have to wait 45 minutes trying to get through there on a Friday afternoon.
What types of success/failures would be directly attributed to him?
Failures could be Mike's cage not being cleaned daily
Seriously, what kind of dumb questions are these? What do you think Rebowe's responsibilities are at Nicholls? How about Saban at Alabama?
Like a previous poster mentioned, just give it a break already. Whoever they decide upon, then that is who it will be.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:25 pm to Skeeter07
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It's in joes hands
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:58 pm to 7nette
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If we do end up with him at HC, what would you consider his responsibility? What types of success/failures would be directly attributed to him? I already see the excuses from people saying he just needs to go out and get a good OC. What if the OC doesn't work? Will that be a failure on Coach O or a failure on the OC? There has to be some attributable form other than recruiting and motivation that he can be critiqued on. If not we'll just keep swapping out OC/DC and you guys will just say it wasn't a good fit if we don't do well.
CEO will never be blamed for anything he does as HC.
I'm not kidding either.
Look at the people giving him credit for the offense but giving Ensminger no credit even though Ensminger calls the plays.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:05 pm to boweswi05
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Look at the people giving him credit for the offense but giving Ensminger no credit even though Ensminger calls the plays.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. People are raving over how great our offense was the first few games but every single coach O thread mentions hiring a homerun OC. Coach O fans are just picking all the positives and putting blame on the negatives elsewhere.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:25 am to 7nette
[quote]This is exactly what I'm talking about. People are raving over how great our offense was the first few games but every single coach O thread mentions hiring a homerun OC. Coach O fans are just picking all the positives and putting blame on the negatives elsewhere.[/quote
This is retarded. I'm not a huge O fan, but I've seen no one imply he's the main reason the offense is so much better. Now I've seen plenty say that he leaves the OC alone unlike Miles. O has received credit for lighting a fire under this team and that is deserved. No one is calling him or the OC a guru. Everyone knew that anyone with any sense could do better than miles.
This is retarded. I'm not a huge O fan, but I've seen no one imply he's the main reason the offense is so much better. Now I've seen plenty say that he leaves the OC alone unlike Miles. O has received credit for lighting a fire under this team and that is deserved. No one is calling him or the OC a guru. Everyone knew that anyone with any sense could do better than miles.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:28 am to tiogatiger19
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I've seen no one imply he's the main reason the offense is so much better.
Then you're blind.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:39 am to Mo Jeaux
I support coach o. But he should not be our first choice as head coach. Lsu should start down the line and ask every coach more qualified if they have interest. Start with Meyer and saban, work your way through Jimbo and Herman. When you get to unproven coaches who are lesser or equal equivalents then give o a shot. Make him keep arranda and get the most capable offensive mind out there. Coordinators dictate gameplans more than head coaches. I do not want o without arranda. I personally would take arranda as unproven as he is over o.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:43 am to Mo Jeaux
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Then you're blind.
He is the main reason because he fired cameron. Cameron's offense was based on running the same plays under the same formations. Worst coordinator in the sec in my opinion.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:43 am to Houston Texas Tiger
I am an Ensminger fan as well. Offensive records in 4 of 5 games apparently isn't a good enough feat compared to a glitzy "polished" high profile OC! 
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:19 am to Bayou
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I am an Ensminger fan as well. Offensive records in 4 of 5 games apparently isn't a good enough feat compared to a glitzy "polished" high profile OC!
Seriously. If you want to keep Orgeron you should be begging Ensminger to stay as well.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:24 am to 7nette
The biggest hang up for me is Dave Aranda. The man is a fricking defensive genius. He's easily the best DC in college football and arguably the best in all of football. If LSU chooses to stick with Coach O, you run the significant risk of pissing Aranda off and he bolts. This is something we CANNOT allow to happen no matter how much you slapdicks love CEO. Aranda is far more valuable to this program as DC than CEO would ever be as a HC. Hire a top notch coach and throw the bank at Aranda. Period, end of discussion.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:29 am to ibleedprplngld
You are correct sir. We lose Aranda, we lose.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 7:52 am to bass
To keep O means we will have more $ to give Aranda to retain him. Do you really think we are going to pay a top flight coach 6 or 7 mill AND have Aranda as perhaps the highest paid DC? Then who and what do we pay a top tier OC?
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