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Everyone should read "Meat Market"
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:28 pm
It really is a great read about O's time at Ole Miss. There are some,*cough* coincidences, with his time at LSU. I really hope O does great things here. I do. I can think of nothing better than a Saban "Ditchdigger type" beating Saban. Unfortunately, I think we are seeing a replay of Ole Miss. Some tidbits:
- He "blew them away" - the Ole Miss AD & President- with his handwritten, detailed plan to build the program.
- He took over for a very successful David Cutcliff on the heals of his only losing season at Ole Miss.
- O arrived in Oxford to find the cupboard was empty. A complete rebuild.
- There were always QB problems and a mad dash shifting players around to fill in holes.
- Recruiting would fix everything. "A new day at Ole Miss!"
- After season 1, Art Kehoe & Dan Werner (2 coaching buddies) were brought it. Kind of like Robinson & Jenkins were brought in.
- Off the field was a mess. It was obviously Cutcliffe' s fault.
- On Saturday's sloppy play, penalties, bad decisions at critical moments, and some really bizarre moves by O contributed to loss after loss.
- O once held an 80 play scrimmage during a lightening delay against Wake Forest. They lost.
- Ole Miss would occasionally compete with better opponents only to lose. The Forida game last year was not unusual on terms of O's head coaching career. Not that Florida was better but the team that played better lost.
- O would parade around the football office banging on a bass drum to keep the coaches focused. I'm sure he learned that from Jimmy Johnson or Pete Carroll.
- O would routinely say "Hold that Tiger!" Or hum the LSU pregame. The Ole Miss people must have loved that. I wonder if he says, "Fight On!" all day at LSU?
- The Ole Miss compliance guy was the big problem.
- His right hand man at Ole Miss turned out to be a sleezeball: Hugh Freeze. His right hand man at LSU started out as a sleezeball: Fat Goebbels.
- He "blew them away" - the Ole Miss AD & President- with his handwritten, detailed plan to build the program.
- He took over for a very successful David Cutcliff on the heals of his only losing season at Ole Miss.
- O arrived in Oxford to find the cupboard was empty. A complete rebuild.
- There were always QB problems and a mad dash shifting players around to fill in holes.
- Recruiting would fix everything. "A new day at Ole Miss!"
- After season 1, Art Kehoe & Dan Werner (2 coaching buddies) were brought it. Kind of like Robinson & Jenkins were brought in.
- Off the field was a mess. It was obviously Cutcliffe' s fault.
- On Saturday's sloppy play, penalties, bad decisions at critical moments, and some really bizarre moves by O contributed to loss after loss.
- O once held an 80 play scrimmage during a lightening delay against Wake Forest. They lost.
- Ole Miss would occasionally compete with better opponents only to lose. The Forida game last year was not unusual on terms of O's head coaching career. Not that Florida was better but the team that played better lost.
- O would parade around the football office banging on a bass drum to keep the coaches focused. I'm sure he learned that from Jimmy Johnson or Pete Carroll.
- O would routinely say "Hold that Tiger!" Or hum the LSU pregame. The Ole Miss people must have loved that. I wonder if he says, "Fight On!" all day at LSU?
- The Ole Miss compliance guy was the big problem.
- His right hand man at Ole Miss turned out to be a sleezeball: Hugh Freeze. His right hand man at LSU started out as a sleezeball: Fat Goebbels.
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:31 pm to jonboy
Read it back in high school in '08. Eerie the similarities between Ole Miss and the beginning of this tenure. Especially the binder thing. He's pretty much sold the same thing here as he did in Mississippi
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:31 pm to jonboy
I read it at the Barnes and Noble off Corporate. I read it in one sitting right when it came out, around January of 2008. From that day I thought O was an eager but incompetent person, somebody who talked about getting opportunities but could never deliver when he got them.
I never fricking thought we would hire a coach that fricking Ole Miss fired. We are run by retards.
I never fricking thought we would hire a coach that fricking Ole Miss fired. We are run by retards.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:31 pm to jonboy
quote:thats just hilarious
- O once held an 80 play scrimmage during a lightening delay against Wake Forest. They lost.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:35 pm to The Egg
It won't be when it happens here.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:36 pm to jonboy
don't you know you're not allowed to reference coach o's time at ole miss when voicing concern about the current state of LSU football? IT'S LIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:37 pm to jonboy
quote:
O would parade around the football office banging on a bass drum to keep the coaches focused
I legit LOLed.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:37 pm to The Egg
quote:
thats just hilarious
I stopped laughing at Orgeron the day he was hired as LSU coach...thats when the tears came
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:38 pm to jonboy
Yes I have thought about this already and agree there are too many striking similarities.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:38 pm to 1999
quote:
don't you know you're not allowed to reference coach o's time at ole miss when voicing concern about the current state of LSU football? IT'S LIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED.
He has learned so much since then..especially from Pete Carroll who he didnt even coach under after he left Ole Miss
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:39 pm to jonboy
quote:
He "blew them away" - the Ole Miss AD & President- with his handwritten, detailed plan to build the program.
only difference now is he had ponamsky run over to office depot and get it printed in binder format.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:40 pm to jonboy
Anyone who reads Meat Market and still wants/wanted O as coach is delusional.
There are things so crazy you want to believe it's fiction, but it's not.
There are things so crazy you want to believe it's fiction, but it's not.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:41 pm to jonboy
Read the bible. It's obvious Coach O is the anti-christ.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:42 pm to 1999
quote:
only difference now is he had ponamsky run over to office depot and get it printed in binder format.
To be fair, he also changed the color scheme.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:42 pm to jonboy
quote:
There are things so crazy you want to believe it's fiction, but it's not.
What ????
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:43 pm to jonboy
He said the problem at Ole Miss was he tried to coach every position. We saw on Saturday he no longer does that, he just stares off into the distance during games.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:43 pm to km
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Read the bible. It's obvious Coach O is the anti-christ.
No. Just a piss poor coach.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:44 pm to Goldrush25
I thought it was funny too until LSU football Twitter or Facebook posted a picture of a bass drum recently. Seriously.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:44 pm to jonboy
It sounds like it's kinda the 'mein kampf' of sucking
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:45 pm to jonboy
This is squarely on Joe Alleva. I don't blame O. This was his dream job. Now, if it comes out that O was backstabbing the man (Miles) that gave him the only hope he would ever have of becoming HC at LSU, then frick O. But Alleva is the idiot that completely botched this entire operation. From start to finish. You can start with that November game against A&M in 2015 and go straight through to the Auburn game last year, then the ridiculous non-search we ran, then promoting our D-Line coach. I mean, this was truly amateur hour. Why should we have thought any differently about the man who threw three innocent kids (for whom he was responsible) under the bus when he was at Duke, or the man who hired Johnny Jones, among other brilliant maneuvers.
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