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Ever seen so many errors on one play in a CWS game than the one that tied the game at 4?

Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:00 pm
I mean, holy hell!

3 mishandled balls that result in a tying score.

LSU may be a team of destiny.
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted by Sir Fury
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:02 pm to
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Ever seen so many errors on one play in a CWS game than the one that tied the game at 4? by Roaad
I mean, holy hell!

3 mishandled balls that result in a tying score.

LSU may be a team of destiny.


The official scorer only gave them 2 errors on that play. But they could've had as many as 4. I think it should've been 3.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:03 pm to
FSU just did what FSU always does in Omaha.

The errors were more a result of Cole Freeman putting some heat on them rather than FSU sucking though.
Posted by CheerWhine
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:06 pm to
And there was the play where Duplantis scored from first base on a strikeout. Sometimes it's just meant to be.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:06 pm to
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The errors were more a result of Cole Freeman putting some heat on them rather than FSU sucking though.


No indeed not! The outfielder failed to field the ball. That had nothng to do with Cole. Then he threw to no one. Sure baserunners were motoring about, but that's always the case. Then the catcher missed the ball when he had had time to smoke a cigarette.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:09 pm to
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The official scorer only gave them 2 errors on that play. But they could've had as many as 4. I think it should've been 3.

both to the poor right fielder, too (the 1st 1 is obvious, the 2nd was for a wild throw that skipped away from the 2B)

there was no way they could've tabbed them with 4 errors on that play... 3 would've been a tough ask to give but could've been done

as a scorer, I understand why only 2 were given
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:09 pm to
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No indeed not! The outfielder failed to field the ball. That had nothng to do with Cole


So you think the right fielder misplaying that ball had zero to do with the thought that Freeman was possibly heading to third?
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:10 pm to
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And there was the play where Duplantis scored from first base on a strikeout. Sometimes it's just meant to be.

I was wrong about the stolen base on that play... they did give him a stolen base and a 2-bag passed ball
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:11 pm to
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3 would've been a tough ask to give but could've been done 


For a third error to be given they would have had to be certain Freeman was going to be out at home.
Posted by TigerHoochie
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:12 pm to
That was a result of pressure not lack of talent. When a team makes it this far they're all talented but the win comes from composure and how you handle a high pressure play. Having said that, LSU took advantage of the momentum to clinched the win.
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 1:13 pm
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:13 pm to
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For a third error to be given they would have had to be certain Freeman was going to be out at home.

correct... and from looking at the play... you could say he would've been toast

but on a play like that... a lot of times the scorer will go against awarding an error on that play
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:49 pm to
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 you could say he would've been toast


The ball certainly beat Freeman. The throw was high, but not error high. If he would have caught it, the play was still super close. Would have come down to if the catcher blocked the plate enough or not. Certainly didnt warrant error #3 on the play. 2 errors was the right call.
Posted by lsufan251875
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 1:51 pm to
Official scorer did give them 3.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 2:00 pm to
Not according to the second poster in this thread. So which one is correct?
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 2:06 pm to
Initially they only gave 2 errors on the play (both to the RF). A few moments later they also gave an error to the C that allowed Duplantis to advance to 3rd.

Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 2:06 pm to
I stand corrected... thought Chris Blair said they awarded 2 on the radio broadcast

just went back and looked at the play-by-play and it was 3

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Duplantis singled through the right side, advanced to second on a fielding error by rf, advanced to third on a fielding error by c (2-2 BKBF); Freeman advanced to second, advanced to third, scored on a throwing error by rf, unearned.


I bolded the 3 different errors awarded on the play... 2 E9s and an E2
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 2:08 pm to
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also gave an error to the C that allowed Duplantis to advance to 3rd


Ahhh OK that makes sense. So third error was because Dup got to third, and not because Freeman scored.

In the end, who cares. We won.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 2:09 pm to
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In the end, who cares.

the FSU pitcher who got another run tabbed as unearned instead of earned

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Deichmann singled through the right side, RBI (1-2 BFK); Duplantis scored, unearned.


even though would've been unearned unless Deichmann hit a triple or home run no matter whether the 3rd error had been given or not
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 2:12 pm
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 2:12 pm to
Right you can't give an error to the C on Freeman because there's no way to assume he would've tagged him out. Crazy play to score for sure.
Posted by Cjscore
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 2:18 pm to
I felt Freeman should have been headed to 3rd on the hit no matter how the RF played it.
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