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re: ESPN's Peter Burns Quick thoughts leaving LSU FB Spring Tour for @SIRIUSXM:
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:14 am to Tiger Ree
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:14 am to Tiger Ree
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Coach O seems MUCH more comfortable with staff around him in 2018.
He should be, considering he hired individuals based on his comfort level with them rather than their coaching ability.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:16 am to Tiger Ree
From 2013 through last year it was clear LSU's defensive line, as a whole, had taken a big step back from 2009-2012. The front line of Lawrence, Fehoko, Alexander should be the most talented group of interior D Linemen LSU has had in a while. If so, then this defense could be really, really good (assuming they can stay relatively healthy in the secondary).
O has also placed an emphasis on loading up the OL. For that, he deserves credit.
I guess the question is what does that mean? O has literally nothing to do with the offense. Obviously he and Canada didn't get along last year, so does that mean he is more comfortable in feeling like he can tell Ensminger what he should and/or should not be doing on offense? If so, that isn't a good thing. Or, does it mean he trust Ensminger completely and feels he doesn't have to step in and say anything when it comes to the offense?
My guess is it's probably the latter and O feels like he can do what he is actually qualified to do...recruit and completely get out of the way when it comes to game planning/play calling. For better or worse (and deep down he knows it too) LSU is better when Ogeron has nothing to do with "strategery". His job as HC is COMPLETELY reliant on his coordinators being great. In essence, he didn't trust Canada with his (O's) job. That's where I'm sure the friction came in because Canada didn't respect Ogeron as a coach. He knew that Ogeron was completely reliant on him and didn't really care what Ogeron thought.
Ensminger and Aranda at least give O deference, instead of just considering him a useless HC. As such, O trusts them with HIS job.
O has also placed an emphasis on loading up the OL. For that, he deserves credit.
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Coach O seems MUCH more comfortable with staff around him in 2018. Less uptight than in 2017....more like Interim O that got him gig
I guess the question is what does that mean? O has literally nothing to do with the offense. Obviously he and Canada didn't get along last year, so does that mean he is more comfortable in feeling like he can tell Ensminger what he should and/or should not be doing on offense? If so, that isn't a good thing. Or, does it mean he trust Ensminger completely and feels he doesn't have to step in and say anything when it comes to the offense?
My guess is it's probably the latter and O feels like he can do what he is actually qualified to do...recruit and completely get out of the way when it comes to game planning/play calling. For better or worse (and deep down he knows it too) LSU is better when Ogeron has nothing to do with "strategery". His job as HC is COMPLETELY reliant on his coordinators being great. In essence, he didn't trust Canada with his (O's) job. That's where I'm sure the friction came in because Canada didn't respect Ogeron as a coach. He knew that Ogeron was completely reliant on him and didn't really care what Ogeron thought.
Ensminger and Aranda at least give O deference, instead of just considering him a useless HC. As such, O trusts them with HIS job.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:17 am to Tiger Ree
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O’s recruiting has helped plug major holes left unattended by last regime
Or in some instances, taken what were positions of strength and gutted them. See: CB and RB.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:17 am to Goldrush25
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Coach O seems MUCH more comfortable with staff around him in 2018. Less uptight than in 2017....more like Interim O that got him gig
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Comfort's not necessarily the best thing when you're trying to build a special team.
He didn't say O was comfortable with LSU's position as a team, he said O is more comfortable with his staff. Do you want O to be uncomfortable with his staff?
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:18 am to Dave England
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He should be, considering he hired individuals based on his comfort level with them rather than their coaching ability.
Yep
God I’ve never been less excited. I salute those who still are. I do think we’ll have a great defense.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:18 am to Goldrush25
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Ree doesn't post anything that's not all roses and flowers and sunshine. That's called propaganda.
Wrong again. You don't know shite.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/lsu-sports/get-bigger-get-stronger-its-the-orgeron-path-to-success/76347496/
Here is a quote from one of your ilk:
"So at first you wanted me to get all excited about Coach O bringing in the #1 JUCO OT, then you link an article saying that realistically he isn't even going to start"
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:23 am to Ripley
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Besides Offensive Tackle, what holes did Miles & Co leave unattended
Defensive line. There was at least one game last year that Christian LaCouture took every snap. Chaisson had to start as a true freshmen because one player was out. In the MS St game I believe both defensive linemen that were ejected were both true freshmen.
If you don't know about the defensive line, you don't follow LSU football.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:25 am to Dave England
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Or in some instances, taken what were positions of strength and gutted them. See: CB and RB.
RB is the position we should worry about the least. First off, CEH will be much better than you are anticipating. Plus, RB is pretty much the position that professional teams worry about least. For a reason. When are LSU fans going to understand that the lines are the most important positions. Good line play will make an average running back will look great. See Alabama. Poor line play will make a great running back look awful. See Leonard Fournette vs. Alabama.
If forced to choose, I'll take line depth over CB depth any day. We'll be fine.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:26 am to Tiger Ree
I saw this on dandy don this morning. how dare you post a positive media remark on this anti-lsu site.
I mean, boogers remarks and now this?
I mean, boogers remarks and now this?
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:33 am to Ripley
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WTF!??
Besides Offensive Tackle, what holes did Miles & Co leave unattended? And don’t say QB because Miles was more responsible for Brennan and Narcisse being here than O is. O almost royally fricked the recruitment of Brennan actually.
DEFENSIVE frickING LINE YOU DIPSHIT!! The lack of depth and talent there was behind ridiculous! But even with that his lack of developing a QB was one of his biggest downfalls, so hell yes you can say QB And how about the biggest hole of them all, his stubbornness in not wanting to change the offense. At least Coach O is trying to accomplish that!
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 9:36 am
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:33 am to Dave England
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He should be, considering he hired individuals based on his comfort level with them rather than their coaching ability.
No one ever did anything great by being comfortable.
There's a reason why Les was the Mad Hatter at one point. You have to take risks in coaching. Orgeron's the opposite of that. He wants to risk nothing but thinks he can accomplish greatness this way. They're really opposing concepts, comfort and greatness.
Comfort will ensure that everything stays exactly as it is. Comfort stifles creativity.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 9:35 am
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:34 am to Tiger Ree
quote:so we're still not competing with Alabama
They look like the LSU of old
good to know
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:36 am to Goldrush25
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Ree doesn't post anything that's not all roses and flowers and sunshine. That's called propaganda. That's fine if he wants to post it, but don't turn around and say people are being unreasonable when the actual games start and we hold him to these glowing reports.
fair enough, but in Ree's defense much of what he posts is in response to the uber negativety on here. maybe he is too optimistic but that's better than dragging everything LSU through the mud. there is reason to be optimistic. also, there is reason to be pessimistic. but a 9-4 season is not a reason to declare the program is dead and the coaching staff is garbage. much of the stuff I read on here is so bad that I have to consider it posted by fans of other schools.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:36 am to Dave England
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Or in some instances, taken what were positions of strength and gutted them. See: CB and RB.
How is CB gutted? Besides Greedy being lowly ranked out of high school by the recruiting services CB looks pretty good.
Gutted would be having walk-ons and 2-star players starting.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:37 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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Right now LSU isn't favored against Miami,
The boys in Vegas seem to disagree with you.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:39 am to Tiger Ree
Are you going to disappear after the spring game, or should we expect at least one pumper thread a day all the way through fall camp?
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:42 am to ChEgrad
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When are LSU fans going to understand that the lines are the most important positions
Never. If LSU doesn't sign at least three 5-star safeties to boost rankings it sucks !!!
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Good line play will make an average running back will look great. See Alabama. Poor line play will make a great running back look awful. See Leonard Fournette vs. Alabama.
If forced to choose, I'll take line depth over CB depth any day. We'll be fine.
Well said.
Everybody always questions why Bama RB's seem to be busts in the NFL for the most part. You just explained why.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:43 am to Tiger Ree
This tells me LSU is going to be pretty stacked when Kiffin rolls into town for 2019.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:44 am to Tiger Ree
Because until O had to resort to picking up free agents in college football, there were four total CBs on the roster.
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