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re: ESpn2 Softball Hate Tigers

Posted on 6/2/17 at 6:16 am to
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 6:16 am to
Imagine if the same were true in football. Lol
Posted by OU812
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 6:16 am to
Opinions vary!
Posted by double d
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 6:23 am to
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I guarantee that home plate call/replay will be replayed throughout tomorrow and maybe perhaps the weekend! The commentators will continually say how UCLA got screwed!


Well she was in the act of catching the ball so by definition they were. That is a judgment call and is usually not called against the defense. One common theme throughout the NCAA tourney is bad umpiring. Had the roles been reversed every LSU fan on here would be screaming the Tigers were screwed.
Posted by Captain Crown
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 6:35 am to
Geaux Girls
Posted by saint tiger225
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 6:39 am to
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That is certainly not any rule. And truth be told, it was a bad call now that we have the advantage of replay to make it. At game speed, I don't have much issue with it. With replay, horrible call.
You can't be this stupid can you?

Or are you trolling?
Posted by Jon1798
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 6:49 am to
Your cousin has an issue with gay people and chose A&M? Bold strategy
Posted by Fratigerguy
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 8:52 am to
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So basically, the catcher stood in a spot directly in the path of the runner from third to the plate. The catcher never moved her feet from where she was standing while waiting for the throw, caught the ball and dropped directly down in Quinn's path to the plate. It's interference, and that's why it was an automatic call for the umpire.


It's actually not interference. It's obstruction. The offense interferes, the defense obstructs. Let's get that clear.

Second, you're ignoring the part of the rule that says her progress has to be impeded due to the catcher not having the ball or being in the process of catching the ball, while blocking the base. The only way her progress was impeded is that if the umpire determined that the catcher being there caused Quinn to slow or alter her path to the plate BEFORE she caught or was in the process of catching the ball. Once the catcher has the ball, or is in the act of catching the ball, she can block any damn base she wants.

I'm not saying she didn't slow down or check up while running down third base line because the catcher was in the way. I just didn't see it. And by RULE, that had to happen for there to be OBS.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 9:09 am to
And let's not forget the last sentence that you didn't bold.

quote:

Blocking access to the base with no noticeable effect on a runner remains a “no call.”


Did you see Connie slow down or anything prior to the catcher having the ball or prior to the catcher being in the process of receiving the ball?
Posted by Belaire Buck
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 9:18 am to
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It's interference, and that's why it was an automatic call for the umpire.


It's obstruction...offenses interfere defenses obstruct.


ETA...Dammit it was already posted
This post was edited on 6/2/17 at 9:22 am
Posted by teeMike
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 9:27 am to
Can someone explain the difference in the 2 calls? LSU tagged the runner out at home. Both plays looked the same to me. Glad LSU got the call. Just curious as to the difference. TIA.
Posted by 81Tiger
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 9:29 am to
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It's actually not interference. It's obstruction. The offense interferes, the defense obstructs. Let's get that clear.


I agree with you, although the NCAA play-by-play termed it interference.


quote:

LSU 5th - Quinn singled through the left side (3-2 BSKBB). Springfield out at first p to 2b, SAC, bunt (0-0); Quinn advanced to second. Serrett singled, advanced to second on the throw, RBI (0-0); Quinn scored, interference. Al. Andrews grounded out to p (1-2 BFF). Griggs grounded out to 2b (1-1 BK). 1 run, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 9:31 am to
Yeah, they are wrong. It happens.
Posted by SanFranTiger
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 9:42 am to
Jaquish was positioned properly in not blocking the runners path to the plate prior to receiving the ball on the throw.

The UCLA catcher was blocking the runners path almost immediately when she did not have the ball.

Part of the controversy is that Quinn did not appear to alter her path to the plate, which is part of the requirement for the obstruction rule.

Umpire's discretion
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:24 am to
Right or wrong, it's about time we got a call go our way. We won! We advanced! We're moving on!!

Beat Florida!
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4743 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 11:03 am to
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Part of the controversy is that Quinn did not appear to alter her path to the plate, which is part of the requirement for the obstruction rule.

Umpire's discretion



THANK YOU!!! And that's what everyone is missing in this. It had to be that the umpire felt Quinn did something that altered her path or speed to the plate. Being able to watch replay after replay, I didn't see it, so in my non-umpire opinion, it wasn't the correct call. But at game speed, the umpire made the decision she thought was correct. I don't agree with it, but that is irrelevant. But some of the comments here about knee touching the ground, catcher can't block the plate without the ball, etc, etc, are just incorrect. There is more than 1 part to the rule.
Posted by SanFranTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:39 pm to
Apparently Hannigrif got clarification from someone at the game that the knee on the ground was why the obstruction was called...
but it's not part of the rules as far i read
Posted by TigerSpray
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:40 pm to
Looks like the NCAA wants same conference schools playing right off the bat. Seeding is screwy and looks crooked. They don't want one conference in the finals, that's for sure. They want balance, diversity, gag me with a freakin' frontloader....
Posted by Paluka
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:42 pm to
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the majority of the softball players are lesbians.


Hahaha. My GF disagrees with you.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:54 pm to
You can't block the plate by dropping a knee without the ball. Catcher dropped knee without ball.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:59 pm to
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They don't want one conference in the finals, that's for sure


It could still happen. Losers of the winner's bracket games move to the other bracket.

So, the LSU-UF loser would play the winner of the Oregon-Baylor game Saturday.
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