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re: ESPN - Two SEC writers discuss, Who has the best overall talent, Ala or LSU
Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:55 pm to 41bengal
Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:55 pm to 41bengal
Ole Miss, Ark and BAMA begged us to throw it on them, a few times we hit it deep now it has to be a consisted effort to exploit them when they stack the box. Make them pay for one safety high
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 9:12 pm to 41bengal
Don't have to throw deep to do that. That is a low-percentage pass. We need to be able to hit Crossing routes and get the ball in a playmaker's hands one on one.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:33 am to TGK4LSU
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Based on the numbers of players in the NFL, LSU has had the edge for several years. The BIG difference is on the sideline.
Well you miss. Not question anyhow. Bama has about the same number, not a great difference. Bama has more depth of talent and pack in three deep with four and five stars.
Since slightly less of them are in NFL it must be that some stereotypes are true. By the time Bama players get to the league they have more mileage on them and get used up quickly. They have Dareus and Lacy doing well. Then there is Richardson and the marginally average Ingram. Ragland may have a season ending injury already.
But just blame it all on our horrible coaching. Yes, the same guys who convince excellent HS talent to come to BR.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 6:14 am to TrueTigerTale
How many no 1 recruiting classes have they had? I don't think there is any question they have more talented players numbers wise. This is a click bait article, y'all are so gullible.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 6:17 am to The Creaux
No. Some of you just refuse to deal in reality. The difference was at the QB position last year and for 2 or 3 years. The talent and coaching can only go as far as the weakest link will allow.
Brandon Harris has stated clearly that he hasn't been the leader he needs to be. He wasn't truly ready to start but LSU had to start him and let him learn things on the job so to speak.
You can blame coaching if you want but truthfully most of you couldn't tell zone coverage from man or could diagram a play.
Harris was and still is the key to LSU's success. If he can't make the throws when he has to then LSU will win 9 or 10 games. If Harris can become the QB we need him to be then LSU can win every game.
Some of you act as if the actual play by the players is never their responsibility. Coaching only goes so far. Maturity matters.
Brandon Harris has stated clearly that he hasn't been the leader he needs to be. He wasn't truly ready to start but LSU had to start him and let him learn things on the job so to speak.
You can blame coaching if you want but truthfully most of you couldn't tell zone coverage from man or could diagram a play.
Harris was and still is the key to LSU's success. If he can't make the throws when he has to then LSU will win 9 or 10 games. If Harris can become the QB we need him to be then LSU can win every game.
Some of you act as if the actual play by the players is never their responsibility. Coaching only goes so far. Maturity matters.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 6:46 am to LsuTool
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This team has 2011 type talent
How do you know this? They haven't even stepped foot onto the field yet.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 7:41 am to fightingtigers98
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I don't think we have the elite depth like we did on that team. We went two deep at almost every position in 2011
WR - 2 deep
TE - 2 deep
Oline - 2 deep (8 to play 5 Boutte, Maea, Clapp, Pocic, Weathersby, Malone, Dodd, Brumfield)
QB - meh, maybe 2 deep
RB - 2 deep
FB 2 deep
DL - 2 deep (Neal, Lac, Godcaux, Herron, Gilmore, freshmen and Valentine?)
LB - 2 deep (Thompson, Alexander, Beckwith, White, Riley, Key, Washington, Bower)
DB - 2 deep ( so deep here we're moving safeties to LB and corners to safety)
Linebacker is the one place our quality depth is questionable. This team is every bit as deep as 2011 which had a sucky oline and was even thinner at linebacker than this team.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 7:45 am to YouAre8Up
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This team has 2011 type talent
LSU has been missing two things, quality depth at defensive tackle and the ability to move the ball on offense at times, both led to LSU being worn down on defense by Bama and others. If LSU has those things now, which I believe they now do, they will be a terror for whomever they play.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 7:56 am to ecb
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This is a click bait article, y'all are so gullible.
Every article is click bait. Why do you think people write articles?
Also, the poster just above nailed it. Inability to move the ball (passing game) and dline depth. That's the difference.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 8:25 am to STRIPES
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but truthfully most of you couldn't tell zone coverage from man or could diagram a play
You think knowing zone coverage from man is difficult lol. Bring some gap knowledge to the table at least baw
Posted on 8/8/16 at 10:27 am to The Creaux
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They have better coaching all the way around.
This is utter bullshite. Saban knows full well that Les can beat him, IF WE CAN MATCH UP ON THE LINES. He's never embarrassed Les, it's always come down to the battles in the trenches (even during 21-0, it was slow attrition, and if we could have ever started moving the ball, that game was within reach).
This year's game will be the same way- if we can hang close and keep pounding away, I like our chances with Fournette and Guice late.
We have superior skill players. Until proven otherwise, Alabama has a 2-to-1 edge on the lines.
The interesting thing in that: the line advantage that worked against us was ineffective against Ole Miss, and he's on a 2 game losing streak to them. If he moves to a lighter, faster front to combat them, that plays into our favor. But the Rebels' sanctions and graduation losses might have just eliminated that factor.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 11:26 am to Scoob
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We have superior skill players
This really needs to die. We have great skill players no doubt but they do too and more depth. Do people not understand what the #1 recruiting class 6 years in a row provides you with?? It's undeniable depth
Posted on 8/8/16 at 11:29 am to The Creaux
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They have better coaching all the way around
Yeah, except they dont..
Idiot
Posted on 8/8/16 at 11:40 am to Howyouluhdat
quote:I think our backs and WRs are better (and were more highly recruited- Fournette and Dupre were both the tops at their positions).
We have superior skill players
This really needs to die. We have great skill players no doubt but they do too and more depth. Do people not understand what the #1 recruiting class 6 years in a row provides you with?? It's undeniable depth
Hell, put Guice behind the Bama line, and he's a runaway Heisman winner IMO, let alone Fournette back there. Leonard would be bored back there, and probably near 200 yds by halftime every game.
Neither team has been anywhere near pro talent at QB, but physically, I'd say Mett and Harris have been above McCarron, Sims and Coker. Mett is the purest passer, and Harris is the best dual threat of the bunch.
We haven't been within shouting distance on the lines. For every 1 guy we have who would be in their rotation, they've had 3. I'm not counting our defensive ends, because they are playing LB at Bama.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 12:25 pm to Canwoodtiger
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But just blame it all on our horrible coaching. Yes, the same guys who convince excellent HS talent to come to BR
For the most part, the assistant coaches are great. They do most of the recruiting too. There is a reason LSU has the highest paid assistant coaches in the country. The problem is the buffoon in charge.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 12:25 pm to Scoob
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think our backs and WRs are better (and were more highly recruited- Fournette and Dupre were both the tops at their positions).
Your backs are better. Receiver is debatable. Bama has two 5* RBs, two 5* WRs, and a 5* tight end. All due respect to Dupre, but Calvin Ridley is probably the best receiver on either squad. If Foster can ever stay healthy (big if), he's the most talented guy we've had since Julio as far as size and speed goes. Point is it's splitting hairs on the WR groups, but most pundits have Bama and A&M ahead of LSU here
Posted on 8/8/16 at 1:12 pm to TGK4LSU
quote:Buffoonery doesn't cover all the stupidity of the contradictions in your post smh.
For the most part, the assistant coaches are great. They do most of the recruiting too. There is a reason LSU has the highest paid assistant coaches in the country. The problem is the buffoon in charge.
Recruiting has been great under CLM, the one constant, while the assistants come and go.
Great assistants were hired by, and with contracts lobbied by whom?
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:25 pm to Mayhawman
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Great assistants were hired by, and with contracts lobbied by whom?
Anybody can hire great assistants with a virtual blank check.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 3:00 pm to TGK4LSU
quote:UT, ND, UM and others disagree.
Anybody can hire great assistants with a virtual blank check.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 3:27 pm to TrueTigerTale
IF LSU's offense can't move against Alabama's defense, it doesn't matter.
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