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Entering the lane on a free throw
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:52 am
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:52 am
I don't know how long ago it was that the rule changed from being allowed to enter on the release of the ball to when it touches part of the goal, but I think it allows for too many offensive rebounds. The defense is supposed to have a greater chance at the rebound than the offense because the play starts with a free shot. It seems to me that it's almost a 50/50 ball now because all it takes is for the offense to jump into the lane a split second earlier than the defense, and the refs seldom call a lane violation.
Last night I was pulling my hair out with LSU not grabbing those defensive rebounds, and then with a 2 point lead and 15 seconds left in the game we get an offensive rebound ourselves off of a missed free throw.
Anybody else feel that the defense has lost their advantage on rebounding free throws?
Last night I was pulling my hair out with LSU not grabbing those defensive rebounds, and then with a 2 point lead and 15 seconds left in the game we get an offensive rebound ourselves off of a missed free throw.
Anybody else feel that the defense has lost their advantage on rebounding free throws?
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:54 am to Choupique19
I believe the rule is when the shooter starts his shooting motion, you can enter the lane. You're right - the rule is pretty subjective and it rarely gets called.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:58 am to Choupique19
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It seems to me that it's almost a 50/50 ball now because all it takes is for the offense to jump into the lane a split second earlier than the defense, and the refs seldom call a lane violation.
It is a 50/50 ball (for LSU) when you have Malone in there and Mickey decides not to box someone out. It is a real problem. They need to work on the fundamentals. The issue really isn't the rule as much as effort imo. A big problem for us since league play started.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:59 am to Choupique19
having the defensive player line up on the 2nd block instead of the first block makes it a whole lot easier for an offensive player to get a rebound. still though, our big guys just don't block out. that's the main reason the other team gets so many offensive rebounds
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:02 am to therick711
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It is a 50/50 ball (for LSU) when you have Malone in there and Mickey decides not to box someone out. It is a real problem. They need to work on the fundamentals. The issue really isn't the rule as much as effort imo. A big problem for us since league play started.
I'm with you on this.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:04 am to therick711
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The issue really isn't the rule as much as effort imo
Appreciate the answer. I honestly don't know if it's just us or all teams in general. I know South Carolina is a good rebounding team and they blew it with 15 seconds left when Mickey got the offensive rebound off of Gray's missed free throw.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:05 am to Choupique19
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I don't know how long ago it was that the rule changed from being allowed to enter on the release of the ball to when it touches part of the goal, but I think it allows for too many offensive rebounds. The defense is supposed to have a greater chance at the rebound than the offense because the play starts with a free shot. It seems to me that it's almost a 50/50 ball now because all it takes is for the offense to jump into the lane a split second earlier than the defense, and the refs seldom call a lane violation.
I would say that a rule that prevents you from entering the lane prior to the ball hitting the rim would lead to MORE offensive rebounds. It would basically force the defense to establish position (block out) and at the same time react to the ball changing direction off the rim.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:10 am to Choupique19
The defense is positioned in a block-out position already and can release into the lane at the exact same time as the offense is allowed to release.
Advantage defense, regardless of when it's legal to enter the lane.
Advantage defense, regardless of when it's legal to enter the lane.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:13 am to moneyg
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I would say that a rule that prevents you from entering the lane prior to the ball hitting the rim would lead to MORE offensive rebounds. It would basically force the defense to establish position (block out) and at the same time react to the ball changing direction off the rim.
That's what I'm saying. I think offensive rebounds are much easier when the defense has to wait for the ball to hit the goal before entering the lane. Probably because of what you said. It's hard to focus on blocking out when the ball is already bouncing off the rim.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:15 am to Choupique19
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Anybody else feel that the defense has lost their advantage on rebounding free throws?
That's the purpose... all about the offense. Trying to create more scoring.
Edit: LHSAA went to on the release this season as well.
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 9:16 am
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:17 am to Choupique19
That rule changed about 25 years ago
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:29 am to Choupique19
It is much easier for the offense to get a rebound on a free throw when the players have to wait for the ball to touch the rim or backboard.
When they can enter the lane upon the release, it allows the defense players to establish a block out and get good position.
When they have to wait for it to hit the rim or backboard, there really isn't any time to establish a block out. It leaves the rebound much more up to chance and based on the bounce off the goal.
When they can enter the lane upon the release, it allows the defense players to establish a block out and get good position.
When they have to wait for it to hit the rim or backboard, there really isn't any time to establish a block out. It leaves the rebound much more up to chance and based on the bounce off the goal.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:45 am to Choupique19
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Anybody else feel that the defense has lost their advantage
Basketball at every level has been systematically reducing the role of defense since the Jordan era.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:51 am to The Mick
I've noticed this on tv too, but playing high school basketball last year, you could only enter once the ball hit the rim
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:54 am to FranMully
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but playing high school basketball last year, you could only enter once the ball hit the rim
A ton of states went to the "on the release" rule this year.
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