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re: Effect Les had on Oklahoma State

Posted on 2/8/13 at 2:10 am to
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10398 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 2:10 am to
All I see is Gundy carrying Miles much like Chevis carries Miles now.

Miles is a good recruiter though
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
5896 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 2:40 am to
OSU's offense clearly improved when Miles became their OC. Guess you neglected to realize that.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 6:16 am to
I will add this to your post.. FWIW..
one of my best OSU friends told me thgis when Les was hired...
"You will love him from a few years and will not be able to get rid of him fast enough later on"

I did not ask any questions then, but he implied it was a "personality/arrogance" thing...nothing concrete.

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 6:53 am to
quote:

"You will love him from a few years and will not be able to get rid of him fast enough later on"


Pretty much means nothing. Some fans never liked him and never will. Also no one was jumping fir joy with this hire, the people that live kes do so cus he grew on them.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22499 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 6:54 am to
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Les Miles knows nothing about coaching an offense and has never had any success doing so. He is simply pointing out that that is not necessarily the case.
Not sure his stats totally make this case. They are not all that gaudy, and seem to bounce up and down, even during Les' OC and HC years there.
This post was edited on 2/8/13 at 6:55 am
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 6:59 am to
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Not sure his stats totally make this case. They are not all that gaudy, and seem to bounce up and down, even during Les' OC and HC years there.


Posted by lsueddie18
Jacksonville Florida area
Member since Mar 2012
438 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 7:06 am to
You can add this stat as well and it helps to complete the picture. CLM has never recruited a skill position player that has gone on to be drafted in the first round of the NFL draft. Can't count Jamarcus, Dwayne Bowe or Chris Davis. They were Saban recruits. There was a WR from Okie St. that went late first round in 01 I think, but Miles was not his recruiter.
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10175 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 8:00 am to
quote:

They were Saban recruits.

I sure have missed this over the last few years. Glad to see it back.
quote:

There was a WR from Okie St. that went late first round in 01 I think, but Miles was not his recruiter.

you think, but aren't sure, but it was a staff member that worked for Miles right? So the head coach isn't the only person that recruits? Crazy. And I wouldn't count JR anyway, seeing how he didn't succeed. I guess if a player gets drafted, but not in the first round, he's not very good.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11386 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 8:26 am to
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All I see is Mike Gundy made their offense really good in 02 and 03.



then Gundy tore it up in the NFL.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18146 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 8:47 am to
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Can't count Jamarcus, Dwayne Bowe or Chris Davis.


you sure know what you're talking about man

can i count Ridley? He just rushed for over 1000 yards in the NFL even though he wasnt a first rounder

and im pretty sure cornerbacks are considered skill position players

mo, pat peterson...
Posted by PurpleNGold4Ever
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2009
273 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 9:57 am to
And? Is there a point to this?
Posted by tiger in the gump
Member since Jan 2005
775 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 10:05 am to
[quote] All I see is Gundy carrying Miles much like Chevis carries Miles now. Miles is a good recruiter though [/quote

how come Chavis couldn't carry Fulmer if he's so great on his own?
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44561 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 10:06 am to
cuz Fulmer wasn't a great recruiter. duh.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155588 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 10:10 am to
that offense with josh fields and rashaun woods was sick
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44561 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 10:21 am to
no love for Tatum?
Posted by tha mastablasta
Somewhere over the rainbow
Member since Jan 2012
533 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 10:45 am to
Sooooo, if im reading this right his offenses have historically been good in the beginning and steadily declined the longer he was there…great positive thread dude
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 10:54 am to
quote:

I will add this to your post.. FWIW..
one of my best OSU friends told me thgis when Les was hired...
"You will love him from a few years and will not be able to get rid of him fast enough later on"

I did not ask any questions then, but he implied it was a "personality/arrogance" thing...nothing concrete.


apparently your friend was wrong
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22499 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 10:58 am to
quote:

**confused**
myself. I think the numbers you posted are self-evident. I formed my own conclusion, as you suggested in your OP. But maybe there was no case you were making, and I was wrong in assuming you were making a case - other than to present these numbers - which were interesting. So your OP is appreciated.

Now am wondering what Les' tenure at LSU would show if LSU's offensive rankings/numbers were also put in a column like his OSU record was. And maybe compared with a few predecessors' records as well.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8533 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:15 pm to
He left and....

They have consistently had a high powered offense every since and the school is enjoying the most success it has had in the program's history.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10087 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Effect Les had on Louisiana State

3.2 loss team transformed into a 2.3 loss team vs a more difficult schedule.
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