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Dural and Dupree - only dominant matchup in our favor
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:57 am
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:57 am
With the total dominance by Bama at line of scrimmage, my afterthoughts of the game is that we had our best chance to win by going to these guys in isolation over and over again - I'm talking not just once per possession, but 1-2 times per set of downs.....absolutely only way to truly stretch the field and at least try to wear down Bama pressure on their line - pass rushing and chasing a scrambling QB is equal to or more exhausting to a big lineman as tackling Fournette with 7 vs 5 in run coverage. Given what we saw in our inability to run the ball at all, I would've gambled going to these two talented WR's in the 15-30+ yd routes in isolation all night long until they proved they could stop us - what is usually considered the lowest percentage play in Football was actually our best way to stay in this game - and who knows, if we could've kept this game down to one score til the end, Saban and his boys may have gone into a protection shell like Les is known for doing and given us some momentum to pull this game out - wishful thinking maybe considering line domination on both sides, but stranger things have happened in College Football.
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:58 am to TiggerB8t
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I would've gambled going to these two talented WR's in the 15-30+ yd routes in isolation all night long until they proved they could stop us
So going 6/19 on 21 pass plays called in not proving they could stop us?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:59 am to MrSpock
It wasn't their DBs that were stopping us. It was their front 7 getting pressure.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:00 am to KG5989
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It wasn't their DBs that were stopping us. It was their front 7 getting pressure
There's a recipe to exploit that, you know.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:02 am to SabiDojo
Well yeah. But since when has Les drastically changed his game plan during games?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:03 am to KG5989
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Well yeah. But since when has Les drastically changed his game plan during games?
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:04 am to MrSpock
How many of those 13 incompletions were longer passes in isolation to Dupree and Dural and how many were short missed throws on 2nd and 3rd down OBVIOUS passing downs and in traffic with Bsma LB's also in coverage?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:05 am to TiggerB8t
The problem with our passing game is we only throw deep balls. If we had a short passing game with screens and god forbid the occasional quick slant etc., it wouldn't allow the pressure to be as effective as when Harris is sitting in the pocket waiting for the receiver to get open.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:08 am to Trout Bandit
So every pass against Florida was deep?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:08 am to TiggerB8t
I just re watched it.
Our guys played hard.
Into second half was a killer.
13-10 at that point. Gave them a short field and they got a TD.
Lacatour is only guy on our line that resembles size wise to Alabama.
Neal was a non factor.
Godchaux didn't do anything and key looks a WR compared to Bamas guys.
Also their dbs played really hard and tackled well.
Some of the tfl they had in fournette were due to stunts more so than penetration, they were unblocked.
I like how kiffe mm gives Coker easy throws to make, perhaps LSU should give that philosophy a shot.
Seems a fly/go route down the sidelines is our favorite pass play.
Not a high percentage play to complete regardless who's throwing and catching.
Need to gear up for last 3, no reason we can't win all of them.
Lastly I noticed Alabama had 7 starters on defense that were srs.
Two juniors.
We are young team that will only get better.
Do need some more Tyson Jackson, lavalais, Kyle Williams, Dorsey type players up front though.
Our guys played hard.
Into second half was a killer.
13-10 at that point. Gave them a short field and they got a TD.
Lacatour is only guy on our line that resembles size wise to Alabama.
Neal was a non factor.
Godchaux didn't do anything and key looks a WR compared to Bamas guys.
Also their dbs played really hard and tackled well.
Some of the tfl they had in fournette were due to stunts more so than penetration, they were unblocked.
I like how kiffe mm gives Coker easy throws to make, perhaps LSU should give that philosophy a shot.
Seems a fly/go route down the sidelines is our favorite pass play.
Not a high percentage play to complete regardless who's throwing and catching.
Need to gear up for last 3, no reason we can't win all of them.
Lastly I noticed Alabama had 7 starters on defense that were srs.
Two juniors.
We are young team that will only get better.
Do need some more Tyson Jackson, lavalais, Kyle Williams, Dorsey type players up front though.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:12 am to TiggerB8t
If Dural stays for his senior season hopefully Tyron will have come along by next year and we see some 3 WR looks.
That would be a pretty deadly trio at WR and it's a set that you can still run out of in either single back or I formation.
That would be a pretty deadly trio at WR and it's a set that you can still run out of in either single back or I formation.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:20 am to 5Alive
Florida game has nothing to do with this post - Harris had more time to throw and set his feet than in this game, which I will give him benefit of the doubt in his inaccuracy on some otherwise easy drop off passes such as the two misfires to Fournette - and yes, I am a strong advocate of developing a better short passing game to keep the chains moving and control time of possession too. It just wasn't working for this game and i can only surmise that a receivers chances of catching a deep jump ball is every bit as good as trying to catch a misguided bullet from 5-10 yds with a DB or big LB in close range. I'm as critical as anyone of our coaches inability to develop the short pass with our QBs.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:27 am to SabiDojo
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It wasn't their DBs that were stopping us. It was their front 7 getting pressure
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There's a recipe to exploit that, you know.
and not one time did we try a screen.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:10 pm to TiggerB8t
Come to think of it......weren't we essentially 3-3 on sideline deep routes assuming you call the pass interference in the end zone a catch??
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:15 pm to TiggerB8t
Harris missed quite a few short throws. He was rattled the whole game.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:27 pm to TiggerB8t
I counted at least 3 passes that were play action with 1 man routes.... which were double covered. Absolutely nowhere to go with the ball
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:27 pm to UnAnon
That's exactly my point - take a 2-3 step drop and float some 15-30 yd sideline 1-on-1 passes - Harris' best throws were these.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:58 pm to TiggerB8t
I think there are some other things that could have been effective as well. I like your idea, but I probably wouldn't want to go to it as often as you describe, and Harris' health would be a critical aspect of it. He was hurting, but I don't know to what extent.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:05 pm to Makinbacon
Key played really well, he dominated Robinson
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:11 pm to BHSU Only
No, he didn't.
He was neutralized and dominated in the run game by Robinson.
He had one sack on a play where he was left to get a free rush at Coker.
He was neutralized and dominated in the run game by Robinson.
He had one sack on a play where he was left to get a free rush at Coker.
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