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re: DRAFT GRADES on Scott/LaFell/Tolliver

Posted on 11/12/09 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 5:44 pm to
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overrated and had serious concerns about his hands.


Smart guy.
Posted by SJTiger
Texas
Member since Sep 2005
1521 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 5:59 pm to

Those evaluations are going to be fairly accurate. Lafell is likely early 2nd. Scott is 4-5 depending on the combine. Anyone with a clue will advise TT to come back, put on another 10 lbs and become a better route runner.
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
9625 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:02 pm to
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Great teams see the potential in a player. frick what a scout has to say.


Then they would have drafted them in the first place. And you say this like scouts aren't part of a team.
This post was edited on 11/12/09 at 6:03 pm
Posted by LSU Duet
Lynchburg, va
Member since Sep 2008
116 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:02 pm to
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Shoulder/Collar Bone injuries are big time setbacks for NFL Running Backs.

Adrian Peterson disagrees.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32453 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:10 pm to
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Do you think Scott was better this year?
Do you think he played on a better team this year? Do you?
Posted by Ninja Looter
Member since Sep 2008
1848 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:13 pm to
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Do you think he played on a better team this year? Do you?


Team, yes. Offense, no.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
35806 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:24 pm to
Keiland will be the better back in the pros anyway.
Posted by 3XTiger
backwoods
Member since Jul 2004
1514 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:33 pm to
Drew brees a free agent signing by the saints but the first pick in the second round by the chargers (San Diego). How old are you like 12
Posted by caljammer82
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Member since Dec 2006
789 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:36 pm to
Patrick Peterson; 1st Round Top 15 pick, easy.
Posted by TexasSinger
Front Row
Member since Feb 2006
4480 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:50 pm to
Charles Scott is no more than a short yardage/goal line back in the NFL. He has average vision and limited cutting ability. I would say he's an average blocker at best and average receiver out of the backfield. Getting drafted in the 4th or 5th round is nothing to be ashamed at either. This guy will play in the NFL, but to think he will be a starter or featured back is outlandish.

LaFell is not explosive enough to get drafted in the 1st round, which is the type of WR teams are looking for in that premier round. Now getting drafted in the 2nd to 4th round is still good for him. It's not where you get drafted, but what you do on the field.

Toliver isn't leaving this year anyway, so why are they discussing his draft status. This kid has so much more development ahead of him. Plus, he needs to pack on 15 lbs of more muscle on that 6'5" 200lb frame so he can become more physical. If he's leaving here 6'5" and 215-220lbs, teams will be drooling to draft the kid. Can you imagine how many more tackles he could break and all the yac. This is where Julio Jones has a distinct advantage over Toliver. Strength goes a long way at the next level.

As far as another player, I am very excited about Deangelo Peterson's future in the P&G. The speed and athleticism he brings to the position is unmatched at TE for LSU. I would like to see more 6'4" WRs recruited and converted to TEs.
This post was edited on 11/12/09 at 7:15 pm
Posted by NWLATigah
Member since Nov 2006
4535 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:53 pm to
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Adrian Peterson disagrees.


Are you seriously comparing AP to Charles Scott? :lol:
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422514 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:58 pm to
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Do you think he played on a better team this year? Do you?

um..yes?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422514 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:58 pm to
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Plus, he needs to pack on 15 lbs of more muscle

no

hell no
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422514 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:59 pm to
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Deangelo Peterson's future in the P&G. The speed and athleticism he brings to the position is unmatched at TE.

you do realize some TEs run 4.45 and some sub 4.4, right?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278407 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 7:03 pm to
Scott's fate will be determined at the combine
Posted by SJTiger
Texas
Member since Sep 2005
1521 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 7:06 pm to
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you do realize some TEs run 4.45 and some sub 4.4, right?


As usual slowflodouche..you are wrong. In the 2009 combine one TE ran a 4.5 another a 4.56. The next best was 4.66. Amazing how often you are flat out wrong.
Posted by TexasSinger
Front Row
Member since Feb 2006
4480 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 7:14 pm to
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Deangelo Peterson's future in the P&G. The speed and athleticism he brings to the position is unmatched at TE for LSU.


Fixed it for you since you can't handle the implied.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422514 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 7:59 pm to
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In the 2009 combine one TE ran a 4.5 another a 4.56. The next best was 4.66. Amazing how often you are flat out wrong.

is the 2009 draft the only supplier of TEs now?
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36317 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 8:02 pm to
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Toliver isn't leaving this year anyway, so why are they discussing his draft status. This kid has so much more development ahead of him. Plus, he needs to pack on 15 lbs of more muscle on that 6'5" 200lb frame so he can become more physical. If he's leaving here 6'5" and 215-220lbs, teams will be drooling to draft the kid. Can you imagine how many more tackles he could break and all the yac. This is where Julio Jones has a distinct advantage over Toliver. Strength goes a long way at the next level.
no thanks

you realize he's been just as hard to bring down this year as julio?
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36317 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 8:02 pm to
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In the 2009 combine one TE ran a 4.5 another a 4.56. The next best was 4.66. Amazing how often you are flat out wrong.

and that combine produced slow times across the board

typically you will find a few
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