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Don’t let O hire ANYBODY!!

Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:08 am
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1513 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:08 am
I’m hearing the name Derek Mason a lot which makes me want to throw up in my mouth. It’s yet another safe hire for O because he doesn’t have to look over his shoulder. O lacks self-confidence and self-awareness. That’s what happens when you realize that you are under-qualified for your current job.

Go freaking hire Marcus Freeman. That guy wants to be a head coach. I don’t care if he is here for a year or two.. you’re gonna get his best shot. He wants O’s job. Hire people who want your job. LSU is proving ground. You win here, you get a HC job.

Same goes for offense. Go get Tom Manning or somebody like that. Your offenses rolls.. you might wind up in the freaking NFL.

Don’t let O hire a damn person. He will never hire somebody who scares him.. he treats this job like it’s own personal social club. We all need to be pushed to be our best. If this really is his dream job, then he needs to start treating it like such and put the program in the best place to succeed.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 9:22 am
Posted by tigertown79
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2007
435 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:18 am to
I agree, especially since O has to rely on his assistants so much since he’s never been a coordinator
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 9:19 am
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1513 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:20 am to
Exactly. Everybody who is hired in the Coordinator position should be a future HC candidate.

With this model, you will get everybody’s best.
Posted by chilidog
BR
Member since Dec 2006
179 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:24 am to
So, who should make the hire besides the head coach?
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
6565 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:25 am to
It doesn't matter now. They hired O at a modest salary with incentives. No one wanted him. He was not in demand to be hired anywhere else. He says he will hire the best and brightest coordinators. And yes he wins a national title on the back of Aranda and Brady and mostly Burrow who may be the best college qb ever and never touched again. But then they go and give him a raise to 6.5 million.

He hired Pelini who hadn't coached in several years and who the game has easily passed by. Still has Ensminger as a coordinator with an offense that is not near good enough to win a title. And now people are clamoring for him to hire a passing game coordinator. What happened to best and brightest? Hire a young elite coordinator on both sides and O can stick to recruiting.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 9:26 am
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25454 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:27 am to
Also hearing O wants Nielsen and LSU wants Mason. Orgeron wanted Odom (who declined) and Woodward suggested Pelini. Let O sink or swim.
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1513 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:28 am to
The AD. You, me ... anybody besides O.

It’s really easy to watch a game and see which coaches are effective against the spread. It’s really easy to look at the end of the year and see whose defenses did well.

This isn’t rocket science. We were promised great coordinators with the hiring of O. That was his promise. Great Coordinators want HC jobs.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 9:35 am
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3390 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:30 am to
Im hearing that Muschamp is on campus right now!
Posted by chilidog
BR
Member since Dec 2006
179 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:30 am to
If you say so. thx
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1513 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:32 am to
If O wants Nielson and LSU wants Mason... then their both incompetent and should be fired.

Nielsen is his buddy. I actually like the coach.. but Nielsen is too comfy. O needs to feel uncomfortable. Freeman would do that.
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1513 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:33 am to
Leaders hire people who push them..
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25454 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Nielsen is his buddy. I actually like the coach.. but Nielsen is too comfy. O needs to feel uncomfortable. Freeman would do that.


So you’re opinion is Orgeron should hire someone he is uncomfortable with hiring to keep his job? That is ridiculous
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
18726 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:37 am to
I suggest letting the experts on the Rant hire the next DC, OC and even the HC when that's open.

This place has soooooooo damn many experts it's unreal.
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1513 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:41 am to
I think you missed my point. Haha

Don’t let O hire a retread. Go get innovative. You’ll have turnover, but you’ll get some really successful teams.
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1513 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:45 am to
Have you ever interviewed anybody that you know could do your job... maybe even better than you can?

Did you still hire them?

Whether you answer yes or no.. it reveals something about you.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118773 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:45 am to
quote:

I’m hearing the name Derek Mason a lot which makes me want to throw up in my mouth.


Totally disagree. Mason would be a great hire. Mason is a good dude and the kids would respond to him well IMO.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57681 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:46 am to
Let me put it simply for you, if the admin picks your hires, you’re not going to be successful.

You hire a football coach to make those decisions.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12200 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:47 am to
quote:

owaCityTigerFan


please don't breed
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
6767 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:47 am to
I thought at first this was a joke, but I can see you're serious. I am not exactly confident that Orgeron will make good hires, but if you're not going to let the head coach pick his staff, then you need to get rid of him. Forcing people on him is a nearly guaranteed recipe for a disaster. Having said that you can try to make it a collaborative process.
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1513 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:47 am to
Based on what man... based on what data?

How do you know he is a good dude? How did his players respond to him in the past?

Vandy had a whole team of opt outs.
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