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re: Does losing Dare change your outlook for season?
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:21 am to thunderbird1100
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:21 am to thunderbird1100
Anthony Bradford seems like he could have a break out year
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:43 am to saturncube21
quote:Move Dellinger over to LT and you've got your starter for the next 4 years a la Whitworth.........
Very thin on OL line now
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:47 am to saturncube21
We desperately need every OL we have to be healthy and ready. To me this is concerning
Posted on 6/29/21 at 11:05 am to semjase
quote:we have had freshman starters on the offensive line before
Move Dellinger over to LT
Posted on 6/29/21 at 11:09 am to saturncube21
Doesn’t help depth but since he has never played an entire season, I believe it benefits us to move on now. He may end up making a few mill and still smoke his weed but that type of attitude leading the team has never led to wins.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 12:00 pm to saturncube21
Could Ingram play tackle?
You have better depth at guard so why not try him out there if he's your best olineman
You have better depth at guard so why not try him out there if he's your best olineman
Posted on 6/29/21 at 12:02 pm to 2003tigerfan
quote:
Anthony Bradford seems like he could have a break out year
IF he could really get his weight in check he could be a tackle. But if he cant get below 330s, then guard is his spot probably. He has been talked up hugely the last couple years as a guy who dominates in practice, but could simply never get his weight fully in check those years.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 12:04 pm to saturncube21
Might as well move on now because you know at some point he would fail a drug test and get suspended! Wire is not a big drop off in talent! Depth is the issue.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 12:44 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:Please share those grades with us, Thunder.
Wire's grades at LT compared to Dare's were quite a bit lower according to PFF.
quote:True---for the most part. My eyes tell me that on-field performance is roughly the same but I too would start Rosenthal since he has the higher (pun intended) ceiling.
Obviously, if he was actually any better than Dare at LT, he would have started at LT.
quote:Wire was tried at G because there was a problem and he has the physical attributes and Coachability to have a reasonable chance to produce there. The 2 backups at that pos were badly out of condition--as was the starter--and not coached up enough to even see the field through binoculars. You make it sound like the program would crumble if he was left at LT. If he was so bad they would have buried him on the bench instead of seeing if he could plug a hole. Versatility is not a negative.
No Wire was not even close to better than Dare at LT. So much so, they moved Wire to RG later in the season.
This post was edited on 6/29/21 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 6/29/21 at 12:51 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:Yeah, you'd hope, right! But come to think of it...the guys he dominated (allegedly) in practice were overweight and out of shape too. No way I'm going to believe this dude dominated Roy or Evans or could lay a block on Cox at the second level...
IF he could really get his weight in check he could be a tackle. But if he cant get below 330s, then guard is his spot probably. He has been talked up hugely the last couple years as a guy who dominates in practice, but could simply never get his weight fully in check those years
I am certainly rooting for him though.
This post was edited on 6/29/21 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:04 pm to saturncube21
I wonder if we'd have the same level of meltdown if somehow it was Deculus out for the season instead of Rosenthal gone. LT with NFL potential vs RT who could be counted on to steadily perform.
LT with NFL potential vs RT who could be counted on to steadily perform.This post was edited on 6/30/21 at 12:42 am
Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:21 pm to Damathe
quote:Anywhere the information if free, I should have said!
Does anybody know where to find the stats on the OL from 2020? Like sacks/pressures allowed and pancakes?
Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:29 pm to saturncube21
A loss of starting blind side tackle in already "thin" o-line is like losing 2 DBs and Coach O Red Bulls.
Equates to a few turnovers (sacks and QB hurries)
Hurts O production (3rd down conversions, red zone scoring, etc.)
More burden on Peetz
Less O plays, more D plays
Etc.
I Dare you to tell me differently
Equates to a few turnovers (sacks and QB hurries)
Hurts O production (3rd down conversions, red zone scoring, etc.)
More burden on Peetz
Less O plays, more D plays
Etc.
I Dare you to tell me differently
Posted on 6/29/21 at 1:43 pm to adambomb
quote:
yes. OL was already the weak point of the team for the past couple years even with the joe moore award.
Wait a minute. You're a politician, right? So, even with the award as the best OL in College Football in the last couple years--your time frame not mine--OL was and is a problem. Well done.
Reminds me of a classic summary from not too long ago: Even though the unemployment rate for all minorities---including women---are at all time lows, the economy is tanking!
Actually, no one opposed to the policies of the last administration would dare mention the historic low unemployment numbers...
Posted on 6/29/21 at 3:02 pm to Turf Taint
quote:Now you've done it! You've tainted any replacement!
A loss of starting blind side tackle in already "thin" o-line is like losing 2 DBs and Coach O Red Bulls.
Equates to a few turnovers (sacks and QB hurries)
Hurts O production (3rd down conversions, red zone scoring, etc.)
More burden on Peetz
Less O plays, more D plays
Etc.
I Dare you to tell me differently
Yes to all, but you are assuming that there will be a drop off. We just don't know that yet, my man.
The eye test just didn't show much difference between Rosey/Wire to me. I may just pay for the PFF College Grades to add to the pool of info since I don't have time to go back over games. Know of anywhere to get those stats free?
Posted on 6/29/21 at 3:07 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:
IF he could really get his weight in check he could be a tackle. But if he cant get below 330s, then guard is his spot probably. He has been talked up hugely the last couple years as a guy who dominates in practice, but could simply never get his weight fully in check those years.
Anthony bradford is a guard all the way. Even if he lost a bunch of weight.
I love him at guard. Next year he better be ready.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 3:09 pm to deaux
quote:
He wasn’t that good to begin with so no
This is the honest to god truth. Very inconsistent and unreliable. Good riddance
Posted on 6/29/21 at 5:02 pm to saturncube21
Dare might be a better athletic prospect, but he was going to miss 5 games for some reason. Wire has the tools and just needs the opportunity.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 5:12 pm to saturncube21
losing a subpar LT?
no...
no...
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