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Does Chris Warner know something we don't?

Posted on 11/20/08 at 11:43 am
Posted by SuperFan
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Posted on 11/20/08 at 11:43 am
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In this exclusive piece for Tigerdroppings.com, the preferred Internet site for committed LSU football fans across the globe, we’ll assess the Tigers’ situation as they now sit at 7-3, ostensibly poised to claim second place in the SEC Western Division, and an accompanying New Year’s Day bowl berth.



The January 2nd Cotton Bowl is out now? I thought that was our most likely bowl if we won out. Did I miss something?
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Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 11/20/08 at 11:44 am to
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The January 2nd Cotton Bowl is out now? I thought that was our most likely bowl if we won out. Did I miss something?


jesus fricking christ.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 11/20/08 at 11:45 am to
Despite the Cotton Bowl being on Jan 2...it is still regarded as a "New Years Day Bowl".
Posted by JohnnyReb03
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Posted by spslayto
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Posted on 11/20/08 at 11:46 am to
Although Warner says New Years Day, I interpret it to mean any bowl on or after January 1. That is one of the measuring sticks for a program.
Posted by Stromile Swift
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Posted on 11/20/08 at 11:46 am to
You are trying too hard to read between the lines....
Posted by SuperFan
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/20/08 at 11:47 am to
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Despite the Cotton Bowl being on Jan 2...it is still regarded as a "New Years Day Bowl".



Fair enough. I'm definitely cool with New Year's Day going 2 days.
Posted by CAT
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Posted by JustSmokin
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Posted on 11/20/08 at 11:48 am to
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I thought that was our most likely bowl if we won out

Depends if the SEC gets two teams in BCS bowls, which is highly likely.

Georgia likely to Cap One, leaving the Outback to LSU.


Posted by T
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Posted on 11/20/08 at 11:50 am to
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Although Warner says New Years Day, I interpret it to mean any bowl on or after January 1. That is one of the measuring sticks for a program.

International Bowl
Big East vs. MAC Toronto
Rogers Centre Jan. 3, 2009, Noon ESPN2

GMAC Bowl
C-USA vs. MAC Mobile, Ala.
Ladd-Peebles Stadium Jan. 6, 2009, 8 p.m. ESPN
Posted by SuperFan
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/20/08 at 11:52 am to
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Depends if the SEC gets two teams in BCS bowls, which is highly likely.

Georgia likely to Cap One, leaving the Outback to LSU.



I thought the Outback got an East Division team. If Georgia goes Citrus, wouldn't that mean the Outback just gets the next East team in line? (South Carolina? Vandy? I dunno)
Posted by JustSmokin
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Posted on 11/20/08 at 11:59 am to
Cap One gets the 2nd pick.

Outback, Chick-fil-A and AT&T Cotton Bowls are selected by the SEC Office in conjunction with the bowls. I agree the Outback prefers an east team, but both Vandy and USC may end up with 5 losses. If that happens, I think they'll lobby for LSU.



Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/20/08 at 12:19 pm to
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Although Warner says New Years Day, I interpret it to mean any bowl on or after January 1. That is one of the measuring sticks for a program.


Now, it can't be "any bowl" played after January 1st. The "Big 4", was the old standard, Sugar, Cotton, Rose and Orange. Then, though clever marketing, the Fiesta came in, and then with Bowl proliferation and the BCS, everything has changed.

However, today the term "New Year's Day" bowl is widely regarded to mean a non-BCS bowl, generally from the following list:

Cap One
Chick-fil-A
Cotton
Gator
Holiday
Outback

Some of these Bowls generally go on New Year's Eve, but because of the payout, are in the same league with the actual "New Year's Day" bowls. As others have pointed out, just being on or after January 1st, doesn't make it a "New Year's Day" bowl for prestige:

International
GMAC

Likewise, some owls played on "New Year's Eve", are considered "mid-level", e.g., the Armed Forces bowl payed $750k to each conference (as did many of the mid-level 12/31 bowls), while the Holiday Bowl (a New Year's Day-level bowl) paid $2.2m to each conference, although both played on December 31st last year.

The International played on January 5th, and GMAC played on January 6th, and each paid $750k, like most mid-level, 12/31 bowls. While the Cap One, the biggest non-BCS, played on 1/1, paid $4.5m to each conference.

To show how ridiculous the money is - the BCS Bowls paid between FOURTEEN and EIGHTEEN MILLION dollars to each conference, American money (back when it was worth something).
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