re: Do you think Gerry Dinardo will ever be recognized by LSU?

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He would have been at LSU for a long time had he not been so hellbent on not replacing Lou Tepper.

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Precisely. LSU fans at that time were, and would probably still be, content with 8,9, & sometimes 10 win seasons with an occassional BCS bowl berth.

You need to stop drinking whatever it is you are drinking,..its making you STUPID!...

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I take it you're too young to remember those years. Dinardo's recruiting was as good as it gets. Go look at that list of players someone posted above.

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I'm old enough to remember the great LSU/USC game a few decades ago.

If you think Dinardo's recruiting was as good as it gets you are delusional. I bet you hate Saban w/ a passion don't you?

Saban is light years a better coach than Dinardo and he is responsible for the elite era LSU is enjoying right now.

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I take it you're too young to remember those years. Dinardo's recruiting was as good as it gets. Go look at that list of players someone posted above.


I'm old enough to remember the great LSU/USC game a few decades ago.

If you think Dinardo's recruiting was as good as it gets you are delusional. I bet you hate Saban w/ a passion don't you?

Saban is light years a better coach than Dinardo and he is responsible for the elite era LSU is enjoying right now.

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Well, I remember that game too. Coming in at about the beginning of my fandom. Good for us, we're old.
Dinardo's last team quit on him, but the prior year, they were just as competitive as always, but couldn't stop shite. It wasn't blowout losses, it was 27-24, 33-30, etc. Totally due to playing the worst defense known to mankind (or at least here). Put in an average defense and Dinardo continues to win at least 8-9 games a year, which is where Saban (minus 2003) was at here. Not inconceivable to think if he strung together 6 or 7 seasons like that, he'd win an SEC title or 2, and eventually make a run at an NCAA title.

Do I hate Saban? No... not sure why that's relevant. I don't hate Jerry Stovall either... I do think Saban's a dick of a man, and he screwed the program over the way he left. But he was a good coach while here. As for now, he's not our coach by his own choice, and I don't really care one way or the other about him, or wherever he happens to coach.

As for our program being at an elite level, it is Les Miles, our current coach, who's made the program elite. Let's look at the final polls each season for both:
Saban
2000- 22, NR
2001- 7, 8
2002- NR either poll
2003- 1,2
2004- 16 in both polls

Miles
2005- 5,6
2006- 3,3
2007- 1,1
2008- NR either poll
2009- 17,17
2010- 8,8
2011- 2,2


Do you love Saban with a passion, to bring him up in a thread about another former coach?

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Do you love Saban with a passion, to bring him up in a thread about another former coach?

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No, but I recognize he is the best coach in college and did build what Miles is enjoying.

Miles inherited stockpiles of talent, Saban did not.

Dinardo was an average coach that happened to take over the worst coach ever. He looked "great" in comparison to Hallman, but not worthy of recognition.

I recognized him when he was refilling the steam table at Piccadilly.

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Do you love Saban with a passion, to bring him up in a thread about another former coach?


No, but I recognize he is the best coach in college and did build what Miles is enjoying.

Miles inherited stockpiles of talent, Saban did not.

Dinardo was an average coach that happened to take over the worst coach ever. He looked "great" in comparison to Hallman, but not worthy of recognition

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Ok, LSU was barren of talent when Saban was arrived, and he won purely with freshmen

Furthermore, Miles still has some Saban players stashed in a freezer somewhere, thus explaining his continued success.

Dinardo took a program that makes Tennessee today look like a beast, and revived it. Put together a stretch of bowls (minor, yes), and restored the pride and fire in Tiger Stadium. He then threw some Tepper on it, and was rightly run off before it sunk back to sub-Vanderbilt levels. Saban picked up basically where Dinardo left off (prior to the Tepper nightmare), and made the next step, getting ranked. And yes, he did have the dream season in 2003, but nothing else near that, not here. We weren't a top 10 fixture with Saban, we were respected.

Like it or not, Miles somehow figured how to maximize LSU. It was his 05, 06, 07 run that established Saban's 03 team wasn't a fluke. Amazingly, our fanbase seems to hate him for that, instead of love him. Even more amazingly, Miles himself seems comfortable with the concept that we demand he leave any time the team looks less than perfect. Go listen to his postgame comments after South Carolina, and someone asked him about a must-win after the Fla loss, and he says basically: where have you been, it's like that every week here.

He had it all. Two great coordinators, everything going right, Louisiana recruits willing to consider LSU again after almost ten years of our top recruits going to Miami, Florida, Michigan, FSU, etc.

Then he won the greatest game of his career -- Florida in '97.

The Sports Illustrated article came out giving our coordinators and their game plans most of the credit, and Gerry D. became a delusional prima donna, and completely f*cking paranoid freak.

He was PISSED that he didn't get all the credit so he forced out both coordinators, hired the worst and most incompetent D Coordinator in the history of college football, and an O Coordinator who didn't belong coaching high school football at that point.

Then, when Professor Lou gave us the absolute worst 2 defenses in the history of college football (and telling us it would take 5 years to implement his system, while assuring us that Thomas "the Ice Wagon" Dunson could guard Champ Bailey one-on-one), Gerry D. refused to make a change -- even when he was told it would cost him his job.


Yeah, I don't see any honors coming Gerry D's way.

You nailed it, Turk. A close friend was the LSU alumni chapter president in B.ham for 17 yrs & as such, got to be decently close to J.Dean. This is pretty much as JDean described JD's last yrs. JDean also noted that JD was one of the most brilliant college football coaches he knew, intellectually wise; but noted that he was absolutely horrible when it came to dealing with people, especially alums. When JDean asked all the chapter presidents to write only a group letter criticizing JD, instead of flooding JD with 100's, the chapter presidents complied. JD promptly called my friend in B.ham & unloaded on him, mean spirited & ugly.Based on what my friend heard from JDean, he did the same to most of the other chapter presidents. JDean had NO control over the football program at that time. Bud Davis ran everything to do with LSU, particularly the athletic dept. I am no JDean fan but this is what I heard from a former chapter president.

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biased as 95 Auburn and UF 97 are two of my favorite childhood memories.

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Serious question...What caused the meltdown seasons of 98 and 99...When LSU had finished tied for 1st in the west the previous 2 seaseons??