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Do the Rules Need to Change Back in College Basket Ball?

Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:57 am
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10233 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:57 am
These touch fouls that are called make it hard to watch games in college. How has the NCAA made College hoops better with these rule changes?
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79135 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:59 am to
college bball has always been hard to watch
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:09 am to
The rule never changed. They just started enforcing it. It makes the player defend with their feet and not their hands. Last night was poorly officiating and they were way to whistle happy but I agree with the rule and most games aren't as bad as last night.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43109 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:12 am to
Lazy/sloppy defending plus calling games tighter = bad product.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:13 am to
worst officiated game since the UMASS game when the touch foul was implemented

the last 12 minutes of the game was fricking miserable to watch

frick you refs
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
15650 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:32 am to
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college bball has always been hard to watch
Nope. No it hasn't.
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
989 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:42 am to
I don't know about change back but they need to change something. It seems that defensive players only get rewarded for good defense when they hit the floor and get a charge. There were some cases last night where the offensive player ran directly into a defenders chest (25 foot from the basket) and since the defender didn't hit the deck a block was called. This is the biggest problem in the game today. WHY DOES THE DEFENDER HAVE TO FALL DOWN TO GET A CHARGE?

Worst case scenario is a no call and the game continues. In that case the defender is rewarded by cutting off the dribbler by moving his feet. I just don't understand the message their trying to send to the players if this is all done just make the game more exciting? All I know is if I were Mark Fox I'd be making a call to the SEC office today.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61823 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:43 am to
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The rule never changed. They just started enforcing it. It makes the player defend with their feet and not their hands. Last night was poorly officiating and they were way to whistle happy but I agree with the rule and most games aren't as bad as last night.


I like the rules of making defenders actually play with their feet, but on several occasions last night the man with the ball would dribble into a defender and the defense was called for the foul. If touch fouls are going to be called, then when the offense initiates the contact it has to be an offensive foul. UGA was hammered with more touch fouls through the first half, then the refs figured they had to call a foul on LSU every trip down the floor to "stay consistent".
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
989 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:44 am to
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worst officiated game since the UMASS game when the touch foul was implemented

the last 12 minutes of the game was fricking miserable to watch

frick you refs


I remember that game....so many layups because both teams were scared to death of fouling. It may just be me but as basketball fan I feel that high scoring doesn't necessarily mean good basketball.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:48 am to
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The rule never changed. They just started enforcing it


It went from the appendix and point of emphasis to a rule. So it was in the rule book, but voted on to make it a rule according to espn

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Last night was poorly officiating and they were way to whistle happy but I agree with the rule and most games aren't as bad as last night.


It completely hurts the flow of the game and makes too many good players watch from the bench. If you're going to call that many more fouls, then the foul limit needs to be increased to 6
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 8:51 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35396 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:56 am to
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Do the Rules Need to Change Back in College Basket Ball?
I wish they would enforce the traveling call. Watching players on the perimeter hop after a catch, then pivot, then shuffle their feet before dribbling is painful. The guards have become the worst offenders.
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
989 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:56 am to
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It went from the appendix and point of emphasis to a rule. So it was in the rule book, but voted on to make it a rule according to espn


But man it's so subjective....it's such a judgement call especially with regard to the charge/block. Like I mentioned before I think at some point there was simply pressure from the NCAA and networks to get the scores higher which is a slippery slope.

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It completely hurts the flow of the game and makes too many good players watch from the bench. If you're going to call that many more fouls, then the foul limit needs to be increased to 6


Agree completely with this.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 8:58 am
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
989 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:59 am to
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I wish they would enforce the traveling call. Watching players on the perimeter hop after a catch, then pivot, then shuffle their feet before dribbling is painful. The guards have become the worst offenders.


This...this...this. Allowing the guards to travel creates a HUGH advantage for the offensive player....but then again they're catering to the offense because they want scores higher.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10233 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:03 am to
I disagree. I loved watching college hoops in the 80s and 90s. I watched games the tigers were not in consistently, but now if they are not on I don't bother. I mean you don't want Hack a Shack, but this is getting ridiculous. The home court advantage is also much more of a factor than it was back in the day.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61823 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:05 am to
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The home court advantage is also much more of a factor than it was back in the day.


Because refs are bad at their job. It shouldn't matter what the crowd does, call the game the correct way.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:08 am to
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but on several occasions last night the man with the ball would dribble into a defender and the defense was called for the foul. If touch fouls are going to be called, then when the offense initiates the contact it has to be an offensive foul.


this has always been my biggest beef with officiating. The foul should be on the one "initiating contact."

So many times, an offensive player leans into the defender, who is standing straight up or even retreating in a straight line, and the defender gets called for the foul.

It's ridiculous. The defender has just as much right to space as the offensive player. It should either be a no-call or an offensive foul.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:12 am to
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If you're going to call that many more fouls, then the foul limit needs to be increased to 6


or better yet, don't disqualify a player for fouls. Let them stay on the court, but penalize any subsequent fouls more (like an extra free throw).

That allows players to stay on the court but yet doesn't let them keep fouling without consequence.

I've never understood how a sport allows referees to drastically change a game by taking its best players off the floor for ticky-tack fouls. Yes, I know football, baseball, soccer players, etc. can be ejected, but that's usually for egregious behavior.

A tightly-called basketball game can be altered very quickly by a star player in foul trouble. And I've always hated that.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:14 am to
I don't want to go to a basketball game to watch 80-90 free throws a game. They need to loosen up on the rule some or something.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61823 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:15 am to
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So many times, an offensive player leans into the defender, who is standing straight up or even retreating in a straight line, and the defender gets called for the foul.

It's ridiculous. The defender has just as much right to space as the offensive player. It should either be a no-call or an offensive foul.


Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2500 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:46 am to
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I wish they would enforce the traveling call. Watching players on the perimeter hop after a catch, then pivot, then shuffle their feet before dribbling is painful. The guards have become the worst offenders.

How about carrying the ball call again ? Nobody dribbles anymore w/o palming and/or carrying the ball. Remember CJ's crossover ? When his "move" was not called , the game changed.
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