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re: Did Anyone Really Expect CEO To Run The Table Last Year......8-0?????
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:46 am to LSU Groupee
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:46 am to LSU Groupee
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LSU fired a coach who averaged ten wins a year and will be paying him into the 2020ies. Why do that if we aren't going to be expecting at least eleven wins a year? And this board has had it expressed many times that winning ten games doesn't mean shite. So, why shouldn't ten wins be a floor?
I'm fine with a 10 win expectation 1st season. Looking at the schedule I see 4 "tough" games:
@Florida - I just really think we win this one. Last season's loss and the way we lost should be ample motivation.
Auburn - This one will be 2nd toughest to Bama, but it's at home
Bama - Until we prove otherwise it sits in the loss column
@Tenn - They were decent last year, but I'm just not sure what to expect. We should win, but it's at Tenn.
I may be too optimistic, but I see Auburn and Bama as the only teams that are truly even with us (or better) talent wise. I did read a CBS sports article a couple days ago stating that this is a rebuilding year for LSU and fans need to be patient with O because we only have 4 returning defensive starters and a new OC, but I think our returning depth is good enough that we are reloading, not rebuilding. Also, I think Canada will be able to implement the new offense fast enough that it will at least be better than last season.
So, even though I don't typically predict records (wins) I will set the bar at 10 wins. 11 if you count a bowl win.
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 12:23 pm to BayouCowboy
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So, even though I don't typically predict records (wins) I will set the bar at 10 wins. 11 if you count a bowl win.
I think that's a valid expectation. If injuries pop up or some SEC team we are expecting a win over goes off in the conference, nine wins might be ok.
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that this is a rebuilding year for LSU
I am not sure I can buy into that. LSU recruiting for a number of years now has been rated in the top five to top ten in the nation and we supposedly have a defensive whiz at DC. We have a Senior QB who will have a power run game to fall back on and a OC who did great things last year with no where near the talent he will have at LSU.
Ten or eleven wins should be very doable.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 12:42 pm to LSU Groupee
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that this is a rebuilding year for LSU
No...its not. Tired of this lame excuse every year. We should compete for an SEC title every year. I agree with those that say 10 wins is the floor. I also agree its what we expected from Miles.
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Ten or eleven wins should be very doable.
Absolutely...although I am penciling in a L for the Bama game so that I can get over the trauma and disappointment now.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:07 pm to BayouCowboy
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I did read a CBS sports article a couple days ago stating that this is a rebuilding year for LSU and fans need to be patient with O because we only have 4 returning defensive starters and a new OC, but I think our returning depth is good enough that we are reloading, not rebuilding.
Yeah, that article is wrong. Hiring Orgeron was supposed to make the transition from Les easier by keeping the players, coaches and recruiting class on board.
We've had attrition of talent every offseason for years, but still bring in top classes and never lowered expectations for Les, so we shouldn't do it now. Coach O himself said he expects to compete for championships and fast.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:10 pm to RedTigerRulz
there were a couple of games that he could have/should have won
and the Alabama offensive game plan was bluh
and the Alabama offensive game plan was bluh
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:16 pm to RedTigerRulz
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No...its not. Tired of this lame excuse every year. We should compete for an SEC title every year. I agree with those that say 10 wins is the floor. I also agree its what we expected from Miles.
holy crap, i actually agree with RTR
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:25 pm to LSU Groupee
Les Miles did not average 10 wins per year. 114 wins in 12 seasons isn't 10 wins per year as usual the Miles crew exaggerating.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:31 pm to Madking
The main problem with Miles is that he started off with three great years and then tapered off ALOT except for 2011. Then it came crashing down.... I don't give a crap about the 10 win deal.... After Miles 1st 3 years LSU fans expected a title every fricking year.....
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:32 pm to SportTiger1
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holy crap, i actually agree with RTR
Will miracles never cease?
Dude, I'll lobby for CEO hard and argue with his detractors all day. But I support LSU....not CEO. Just like I didnt support the idea of keeping Miles around because his presence wasn't good for for LSU anymore.
I'm simply supporting and defending the current coach because he hasn't given me a reason not to....YET.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:36 pm to Fat Bastard
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Nobody said a monkey should win 10 games you dolt.
You've been on the rant long enough to know that lots of people have said that anyone could win 10 games at LSU. dgnx6 wasn't talking about what people are hoping for from Orgeron this year, he was talking about what people demanded from Miles over the years.
The "anyone could win 10 games" crowd have now become the "8-4 is good, 9-3 is really good and 10 wins or more is phenomenal" crowd.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:40 pm to Madking
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Les Miles did not average 10 wins per year. 114 wins in 12 seasons isn't 10 wins per year as usual the Miles crew exaggerating.
You counting 2016 for Les? Thats dishonest, when he only coached 4 games.
112 wins from 2005-2015 (11 years) = 10.2 wins per year.
OR
114 wins for 11 1/3 seasons = 10 wins per year
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:44 pm to earl keese
How does miles cum taste?
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:47 pm to Kedwards1
You're a lunatic that no one takes serious. Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:50 pm to Kedwards1
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how does miles cum taste?
How does O's taste? Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:52 pm to SportTiger1
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You're a lunatic that no one takes serious.
The only one who takes Kedwards seriously is Kedwards.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:29 pm to SportTiger1
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You counting 2016 for Les? Thats dishonest, when he only coached 4 games. 112 wins from 2005-2015 (11 years) = 10.2 wins per year. OR 114 wins for 11 1/3 seasons = 10 wins per year
I think the 10 wins bar (or Les' 10 win avg), even though it's certainly a reasonable goal is not the issue. 2012 is the last time LSU had less than 3 SEC losses. That's where we really need to see improvement. 2 or less SEC losses this year and I see us at least moving in the right direction. If this team plays to the level of its talent and not the level of its opponent I think that's very achievable.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:32 pm to earl keese
I wouldn't know. I don't worship O. Hell, I wasn't even for the hire.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:40 pm to SportTiger1
It's not dishonest at all in fact it's exactly honest the opposite if what you're being. When an aging player plays less than a full season his final year or if a player gets hurt mid season does that season not count on his resume? He was fired but he coached in 2016 so it counts go look at his resume it'll say 12 seasons at LSU. Of course you're going to discredit 2016 it doesn't jive with your narrative.
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This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:40 pm to BayouCowboy
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I think the 10 wins bar (or Les' 10 win avg), even though it's certainly a reasonable goal is not the issue. 2012 is the last time LSU had less than 3 SEC losses. That's where we really need to see improvement. 2 or less SEC losses this year and I see us at least moving in the right direction. If this team plays to the level of its talent and not the level of its opponent I think that's very achievable.
Well, i would imagine we're not going to lose to BYU, Chattanooga, Cuse, or Troy. So 2 SEC loses should be an 10-11 win season depending on the bowl.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:42 pm to Madking
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It's not dishonest at all in fact it's exactly honest the opposite if what you're being. When an aging player plays less than a full drain his final year does that season not count on his resume? He was fired but he coached in 2016 so it counts go look at his resume it'll say 12 seasons at LSU. Of course you're going to discredit 2016 it doesn't jive with your narrative.
Good lord man. So you are basically counting every game that Les didnt coach in 2016 a loss...?
Weird
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