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re: Dead Bats today at the LSU Baseball Scrimmage

Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:05 am to
Posted by loustuni
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:05 am to
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I'm sure some bat company would love to see their bats being used in the College WS by an elite program like LSU.


+10000000000000000000000000
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77392 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:07 am to
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Don't talk to me about cost. TAF and all these other athletic departments are making millions and I'm sure some bat company would love to see their bats being used in the College WS by an elite program like LSU. So the cost argument is dead. IMO

LOL
I'm sure the NCAA would love to have certain teams using the wood bats while other schools without the extra money has to use composite bats, that would make a world of sense.
Posted by loustuni
Member since Jul 2008
4160 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:12 am to
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I'm sure the NCAA would love to have certain teams using the wood bats while other schools without the extra money has to use composite bats, that would make a world of sense.


True, but couldn't you use them in the regionals, super, and CWS?
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
7151 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:19 am to
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True, but couldn't you use them in the regionals, super, and CWS?


What I suggest is that the teams be allowed to use wood or composite. If the composite is as dead as being depicted on this thread then it would not matter. The wood bat contract would be set by the NCAA with a company or several companies that bid the lowest cost. Teams would use only those companies allowing for smaller budgets to compete. If a school just does not have the funding, then they use composite only.

I'm sure there are experts that could bring some parity to the issue on cost and equipment performance.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:23 am to
frick SMALLBALL!!
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:28 am to
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the cost argument is dead.


yea, LSU can afford wooden bats all right, but who else can? maybe 20 or 25 other teams? aluminim bats was all about costs from the very beginning.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77392 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:30 am to
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frick SMALLBALL!!

you probably didn't like baseball that much anyways
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77392 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:30 am to
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True, but couldn't you use them in the regionals, super, and CWS?

You want teams to switch bats before the regionals?
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
7151 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:32 am to
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yea, LSU can afford wooden bats all right, but who else can? maybe 20 or 25 other teams? aluminim bats was all about costs from the very beginning.


What I suggest is that the teams be allowed to use wood or composite. If the composite is as dead as being depicted on this thread then it would not matter. The wood bat contract would be set by the NCAA with a company or several companies that bid the lowest cost. Teams would use only those companies allowing for smaller budgets to compete. If a school just does not have the funding, then they use composite only.

I'm sure there are experts that could bring some parity to the issue on cost and equipment performance.

Here ya good GandDad!
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77392 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:35 am to
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What I suggest is that the teams be allowed to use wood or composite. If the composite is as dead as being depicted on this thread then it would not matter. The wood bat contract would be set by the NCAA with a company or several companies that bid the lowest cost. Teams would use only those companies allowing for smaller budgets to compete. If a school just does not have the funding, then they use composite only.

You are assuming wood and composite are completely equal, and I'm assuming there is at least a slight difference
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11875 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:35 am to
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josh336
You presume too much.
These dead bats have effectively taken away the homerun..... which is an important part of the history of the game (and is also fun to watch). We understand that there are some other important and fascinating facets of the game, but as an LSU fan, I also understand that they have taken away one of our major competitive advantages.

Just because someone doesn't particularly LIKE small ball, does not mean that they are ignorant or dislike the game.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77392 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:37 am to
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These dead bats have effectively taken away the homerun..... which is an important part of the history of the game (and is also fun to watch).

I'm not in favor of the "dead bats"
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I also understand that they have taken away one of our major competitive advantages.

it wasn't a competitive advantage for us after about 1998 or so
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Just because someone doesn't particularly LIKE small ball, does not mean that they are ignorant or dislike the game.

No it doesnt, but if they do like the game, they should be able to respect small ball
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60296 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:41 am to
This will lead to more cheating. This will officially usher in the shaved bat era for NCAA.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51204 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:42 am to
Maybe we'll see a no-no this yr n the box
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:46 am to
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quote: frick SMALLBALL!! you probably didn't like baseball that much anyways
I love lsu baseball more than saints football... But no I don't keep up without the majors. What makes you holier than thou?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84871 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:48 am to
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TAF and all these other athletic departments are making millions and I'm sure some bat company would love to see their bats being used in the College WS by an elite program like LSU. So the cost argument is dead. IMO



Meh, can you imagine the initial investment required by programs to furnish a team with wood bats? It would probably require AT LEAST 2x more bats than players, and figure that over EVERY YEAR. Cost is most certainly an issue, not to mention the amount of trees that would take

Safety-wise, the broken bats are something to think about, especially after that one hit the Cubs player.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11875 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:56 am to
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I'm not in favor of the "dead bats"

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it wasn't a competitive advantage for us after about 1998 or so
Yes it was. Maybe not in the strictest sense of home runs, but our hitting has arguably been what sets us apart from other teams. The dead bats shift the power to the UT's of the world that are pitch and bunt.
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but if they do like the game, they should be able to respect small ball
I respect paint drying, but that doesn't mean I want to sit around for 4 hours to watch it.
We had many games throughout last year that gave us small ball, and those games were fun and exciting. However, that's ALL we're going to get from now on... and it's depressing.
Posted by zztop1234
Denham Springs
Member since Aug 2008
3709 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 8:57 am to
I would rather watch paint dry then watch small ball!

Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77392 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 9:14 am to
Small ball can be very exciting. More bunts, more steals, and you are still gonna see a bunch of singles and doubles. Everyone should be thankful its happening now instead of 10 years ago. LSU is much more prepared for it now. Skip would've been fricked.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77392 posts
Posted on 11/5/10 at 9:15 am to
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Maybe we'll see a no-no this yr n the box

Didn't think of that possibility, that would be awesome
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