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re: Curious.. who thinks Mett overtakes Lee

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Posted by doze4
Greens burgs
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 7:16 am to
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Why?? Things are great now... IF JL gets on the skids, I think there would not be hesitation to put Mett in the game, but...... barring a repeat of JL freshman year, I dont see Mett entirely taking over..... IMO


Most Mett supporters are ok with this, the hope is that it is not too late if it happens. I.E. Down two touchdowns in the 4th quarter at Alabama with the SEC championship on the line.. Hey, things could be a lot worse that what they are right now. I'm very content so far with how the season is unfolding.
Posted by tigergym
South Central LA
Member since Jan 2009
1077 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 7:18 am to
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swimmingly


Posted by 500
South End Zone
Member since Oct 2010
350 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 7:19 am to
Curious.. who thinks Mett overtakes Lee

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before the end of the year ?


I'd say "Let's watch the Tigers play a few games" before we ask that question, but it's been asked daily for months.
Posted by Bobby Moore
Red Hill, Mississippi
Member since Jun 2005
17751 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 7:20 am to
another qb post that sucks.......accept that Lee is our starter and be glad........
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26666 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 7:32 am to
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accept that Lee is our starter and be glad........


On ESPN's "The Experts" yesterday, one of the guys said it's nice to see LSU have an offensive identity this season, as opposed to the mish-mash that was the last couple of years.

Yes, it's early in the season, but we at least seem to know what we're doing and what we wanna do. So far, it's working.

Mett will get his shot, but there is no way he's ready just yet. This ain't the PAC-12.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 7:33 am to
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another qb post that sucks


And that's different how from the last 18 mons of "qb post that sucks"?

We haven't had a QB be accepted since we had one lifting the crystal ball over his head in 2007.

Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 7:44 am to
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On ESPN's "The Experts" yesterday, one of the guys said it's nice to see LSU have an offensive identity this season, as opposed to the mish-mash that was the last couple of years
Well that identity is running the ball, so I'm not sure if this statement is necessarily a positive reflection on Lee.

I think Mett will start by the middle of the year.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26666 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 7:54 am to
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I think Mett will start by the middle of the year.


Do you have some reason for 'thinking' this? What has Mett done that Lee has not? What were their stats in the NWSU game? Who had the better ones? Which QB led the team to more points?

I'm not saying Mett isn't a good talent. It's just ludicrous to think that because he played one half of one game against an inferior sub-SEC opponent that you can say he needs to start over a guy in his 5th year who has shown steady improvement and has decent numbers this season.
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 8:01 am to
Well stats certainly aren't the only consideration, or Lee would've been benched after the Oregon game. Both looked good against NWST, but Mett looked better.

He looks far more comfortable in the pocket, has better footwork, a stronger arm, and better mechanics. The only reason he's not starting now is b/c he's had the playbook for less than a year as opposed to a veteran in Lee.

This isn't a knock on Lee, but anyone who watched both of them can't possibly say Lee looks like a better qb. He simply knows the offense better, which Miles hinted at being the reason he was starting. Once Mett gets a bit more comfortable with the offense, I think we'll see him starting, and I see that happening within the next month or so.
Posted by jrich11
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2010
993 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 8:04 am to
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We haven't had a QB be accepted since we had one lifting the crystal ball over his head in 2007.


lifting over his head is the key there. i remember the rant exploding for les to give the reins over to RP earlier in the season.
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6881 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 8:06 am to
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Well stats certainly aren't the only consideration, or Lee would've been benched after the Oregon game


Clearly, because if they were, our named starter this offseason would have never been the starter.

His mechanics were more sound. I will agree with that.


I don't see Mett starting in the next month or so, regardless of what Lee looks like, if we are still winning games. Les doesn't care what it looks like, just as long as it equals Ws.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 8:08 am to
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This isn't a knock on Lee, but anyone who watched both of them can't possibly say Lee looks like a better qb. He simply knows the offense better, which Miles hinted at being the reason he was starting. Once Mett gets a bit more comfortable with the offense, I think we'll see him starting, and I see that happening within the next month or so.


Not so....
it is not just about knowing the offense, but about reading the defense.
Mett can overcome Northwestern, but he is not yet ready for the variations in D that AL, FL, etc., will throw at him. You can not substitute for experience.
Posted by jrich11
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2010
993 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 8:10 am to
the kid's played in one half of an actual football game, with a 3 td lead. and didnt even have as good a game (statistically) as the guy infront of him on the depth chart.

look, the kid's a great talent. but this isn't his year.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 8:12 am to
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Well that identity is running the ball,


We have 7 more rush attempts after 2 games this season than we had in 2010 and a 100 less yards gained than what we had in 2010 after 2 games.

Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 8:13 am to
Let Lee finish out the season no matter what, he has earned it.
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 8:15 am to
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it is not just about knowing the offense, but about reading the defense.
Mett can overcome Northwestern, but he is not yet ready for the variations in D that AL, FL, etc., will throw at him. You can not substitute for experience.
Has Lee shown you an exceptional ability to read defenses? I haven't seen it. Look, I'm not saying Mett should start tomorrown night or anything. The job is Lee's, as it should be. But I wouldn't be surprised if Les mixes in Mett a little bit to show them some different looks and to see how he looks against an SEC defense. I think Les will continue to do that for the next few games as well. And at some point, if and when Mett shows he's ready in a month or so, he'll start.
Posted by NorthTiger
Upper 40
Member since Jan 2004
3845 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 8:15 am to
I think Lee should be yanked now. His 9 of 10 completions vs. NSU is unacceptable. There is no reason he should ever throw an incomplete pass. Mettenberger should complete them all, never throw in int., never get sacked, lead every receiver or throw it where only the receiver could catch it.

In sum -
Lee - first mistake "Damn, here we go again."

Mettenberger - first four mistakes "That's okay, he's young, he still looks great."
This post was edited on 9/14/11 at 4:19 pm
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 8:16 am to
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Let Lee finish out the season no matter what, he has earned it.
Unless he starts getting outshined
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 8:17 am to
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I think Lee should be yanked now. His 9 of 10 completions vs. NSU is unacceptable. There is no reason he should ever throw an incomplete pass. Mettenberger would complete them all, never throw in int., never get sacked, lead every receiver or throw it where only the receiver could catch it.

In sum -
Lee - first mistake "Damn, here we go again."

Mettenberger - first four mistakes "That's okay, he's young, he still looks great."
I take it completion % is the only thing you care about?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103175 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 8:18 am to
I hope Mett doesn't overtake Lee because that will mean Jarrett has played well enough to win all our games.

The big if is what happens if Lee stinks it up in a agame and we lose. Les clearly likes what he saw from ZM last week and if he keeps competing in practice, it could become a real possibility.
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