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re: Counter list best 2000s players as I feel most these 50s-70s guys wouldn't be much today
Posted on 7/29/23 at 7:42 am to bigjohnson
Posted on 7/29/23 at 7:42 am to bigjohnson
I think there are people on this forum that have never played any team sports growing up and don’t have an appreciation of “normal” versus extraordinary or natural gifted athletes. There is a lot of “fans” that spend time to memorize stats and contemplate and theorize without a knowledgeable base. You’ll never convince them.
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Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:06 am to Saunson69
How about letting people who actually know give you an opinion. Billy Cannon ran a 9.6 100 yd dash. That’s faster than any time Founette ran. He threw a shot put 56’ for the state record. He was big and fast - REALLY FAST.
He also played on all three teams in college - offense, defense and special teams. He was a VERY STRONG man at 70. His grip was unreal. Ask the prisoners who often called him Legend.
He was also a bad arse that was a thug in whipping peoples arse when he was a kid in HIGH SCHOOL.
Cannon would have dominated in this era just like Casanova.
There was a pic of Casanova with that 2011 (time frame) backfield after practice one day and he dwarfed all of them. ALL OF THEM. He would have been the best safety in that team then and that included Reid and Jones and whomever. He could have play LB or corner.
You. Have no clue because you’re a kid and never seen or shook the hands of these men.
He also played on all three teams in college - offense, defense and special teams. He was a VERY STRONG man at 70. His grip was unreal. Ask the prisoners who often called him Legend.
He was also a bad arse that was a thug in whipping peoples arse when he was a kid in HIGH SCHOOL.
Cannon would have dominated in this era just like Casanova.
There was a pic of Casanova with that 2011 (time frame) backfield after practice one day and he dwarfed all of them. ALL OF THEM. He would have been the best safety in that team then and that included Reid and Jones and whomever. He could have play LB or corner.
You. Have no clue because you’re a kid and never seen or shook the hands of these men.
This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 8:17 am
Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:11 am to 4orlsu
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Bert Jones could never be a starter today
All you need to read is this.
“ In 1990, Jones participated in the first NFL Quarterback Challenge. He finished first in the retiree category and third in the regular competition (The regular competition taking the top three finishers from the alumni competition and adding them to the regular field of current quarterbacks). Given his strong performance, Bobby Beathard, then the general manager of the Chargers, wanted Jones to come out of retirement,[13] but Jones was 38 at the time and chose not to try a comeback.
Longtime scout Ernie Accorsi is quoted as saying that if Bert Jones had played under different circumstances, he probably would have been the greatest player ever. John Riggins has been quoted as saying Jones was the toughest competitor he has ever witnessed.[14] On the eve of Super Bowl XLII, New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick, in discussing his choices for the greatest quarterbacks of all time, described Jones as the best "pure passer" he had ever seen.[15]”
THE THIRD BEST QB AT A COMPETITION IN 1990. Lololololol.
I GUESS HIM THROWING IT ENd to END IN TIGER STADIUM DIDNT HAPEN OR HOW HE COULD THROW FURTHER THAN RUSSEL BECAUSE HE WAS BORN BEFORE 1970. HILARIOUS
There are some dumb kids.
This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 8:15 am
Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:33 am to Saunson69
Your post clearly shows your lack of respect for prior generations and how little you know about LSU football history. Talent and speed transcend generations, regardless if someone played in the 1950’s or playing in todays game.
I have no doubt that former LSU All-Americans Steve Van Buren, Jim Taylor, Bill Cannon, Tommy Casanova, and Charles Alexander could play in today’s game. You give them the same weight training, 7on7 competitions, nutrition program, access to camps, and social media recruiting, and they would still dominate today’s game like they did many decades ago.
LSU played 10 regular season games during Billy Canon’s era. He averaged 12 carries per game and 5.2 ypc over his 3 year CFB career. Fast forward to today’s game behind a dominant O-line. Give Canon 25 carries per game over a 12 game regular season, and he’s putting up 1500 yds per season. Charles Alexander would be equally as dominant in the modern football era.
I have no doubt that former LSU All-Americans Steve Van Buren, Jim Taylor, Bill Cannon, Tommy Casanova, and Charles Alexander could play in today’s game. You give them the same weight training, 7on7 competitions, nutrition program, access to camps, and social media recruiting, and they would still dominate today’s game like they did many decades ago.
LSU played 10 regular season games during Billy Canon’s era. He averaged 12 carries per game and 5.2 ypc over his 3 year CFB career. Fast forward to today’s game behind a dominant O-line. Give Canon 25 carries per game over a 12 game regular season, and he’s putting up 1500 yds per season. Charles Alexander would be equally as dominant in the modern football era.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:40 am to Saunson69
It’s Billy Cannon, and we get get it from your 27 unnecessary posts. You don’t like white guys, think they’re inferior athletes and you were born after 1995 and refuse to do your homework. It was a completely different game back then with 9 dudes in the box constantly. And if you don’t think Billy Cannon could have played in today’s game, you are just set in your opinion and nothing will change your mind.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 11:16 am to Tiger1988
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Billy Cannon ran a 9.6 100 yd dash.
This article says he ran a 9.4s: ESPN Article
In general, athletes today are bigger, faster, etc than those of yesteryear but there are exceptions. The OP singled-out Cannon. He's one of the exceptions.
He would be the fastest and strongest RB on our team today even with his 50s numbers. We can only imagine if he had today's training.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 11:33 am to AlwysATgr
There you guys go again with logic, you’re probably talking to a 13 y/o who is a computer game whiz.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 12:26 pm to Saunson69
You are heavily underestimating just how fast and strong Billy Cannon was. The dude was a freak and faster the the majority of our recent RBs of the last 2 decades.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 12:50 pm to chadr07
Yeah a 9.6 100m is insane. Everyone is jizzing over Durham’s 10.4’s today and Cannon dropping mid 9’s in the 50’s
This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 7/29/23 at 12:54 pm to AlwysATgr
Yep.
Also, people are literally getting biggr and bigger than the previous generations.
If you have ever travelled out East and looked at Revolutionary War sites and lodging you would be amazed at how short the beds were. People were way shorter back then 250 years ago. George Washington at 6'1" was considered a giant.
Also, people are literally getting biggr and bigger than the previous generations.
If you have ever travelled out East and looked at Revolutionary War sites and lodging you would be amazed at how short the beds were. People were way shorter back then 250 years ago. George Washington at 6'1" was considered a giant.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 1:15 pm to KBob
Well you bring up a good point, stas are only as good as the team that surrounded the player who is accredited with the stats. Who knows what kind of numbers Kevin Faulk might have put up if he lined up behind a Les Miles offensive line. Pete Maravich still holds the all time points record and he only played three years and there was no three point line. Those who saw him play will tell you he was mind bogglingly good. I’m not much of a basketball fan, but even I could see he was in a different class. How awesome would it be if we could watch Carlos Carson and Early Doucet in the 2019 offense. We’ll never know. I know that I have been able to watch some great Tigers over the years, as well as some great opponent athletes. Just saying it’s too difficult to limit it to so few.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 1:19 pm to Chef Curry
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Seems like you’re desperate to bash on white guys.
This. This right here.
I’m surprised he hasn’t come back yet and called everyone who disagrees with him a “boomer”.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 1:21 pm to docTQ4
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Yeah a 9.6 100m is insane. Everyone is jizzing over Durham’s 10.4’s today and Cannon dropping mid 9’s in the 50’s
Cannon didn't run a 9.6 100m dash. It was 100 yards or 91 meters. Durham’s time would equate to 9.5 in 100 yards as a high school junior.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 5:19 pm to jb21lsu
Ok the difference is one tenth of a second. So you agree that’s pretty fast
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:05 pm to AlwysATgr
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He would be the fastest and strongest RB on our team today even with his 50s numbers.
That’s without the nutrition, training, and everything else. It is called pure speed and strength. Today he would be one of if not the fastest player on the team. He had track speed and strength. His grip was unreal.
Casanova was another one. He was a monster with speed, size, strength.
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