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Comparing Burrow and Mett's first seasons as starter...

Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:37 pm
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
1920 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:37 pm
Like Burrow this year, in 2012 Mett came in as a high profile transfer with a lot of hype. The expectations from the fans were sky high. Just like this year probably unrealistic.

After what he did in 2013, his 2012 season seems to be a disappointment in the memory of a lot of fans - me included until I looked up the stats and saw that Mett's 2012 was actually the second most yardage by an LSU QB since Jamarcus Russell's '06 season. That's of course comparing him to a lot of bad QB play that we've had since then. But prior to the season I told myself that I would be happy if Burrow put up numbers similar to Mett's first year as a starter. After all, Mett was in the program for a full year before starting and Burrow had just a couple of months to get acclimated to the team, staff, and playbook. Here are the stats:

2012 Mett: 13 games, 207-352 58.8%, 2609 yards, 12 TD, 7 Int, 128.34 rating

2018 Burrow: 13 games, 219-379 57.8%, 2894 yards, 16 TD, 5 Int, 133.21 rating

Granted, I understand a lot of people will say Burrow had 7OTs in the A&M Game. But in those 7 ot's he was only 4-6 for 71 yards and 1 TD. He did most of his work on the ground.

And while time will tell, it can also be reasonably argued that Mett had so much more to work with in 2012. His RB's:
Jeremy Hill
Kenny Hilliard
Michael Ford
Spencer Ware
Alfred Blue

His WR's:
OBJ
Jarvis Landry
Kadron Boone
James Wright
Russell Shepherd

His OL:
Dworaczyk
La'el
Williford
Elliot Porter
PJ Lonergan
Chris Faulk
Alex Hurst

We can only hope that 2019 Burrow is as good as 2013 Mett but comparing their first years under center I think we have a good reason to have high expectations for next season.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66492 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:40 pm to
That 2012 OL was rough

Lost both tackles for the reason
RG for the season
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:41 pm to
2012 was killed by injuries and the receivers couldn’t catch a cold.

But I’ve posted regularly since September about Burrow having a season like Mett’s 2012 where he comes on late and jump starts into the next season.
Posted by UnAnon
Breaux Bridge
Member since Sep 2013
6433 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

OBJ Jarvis Landry Kadron Boone James Wright Russell Shepherd

All made NFl Rosters, and I think 3 were drafted (if not 4)
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:42 pm to
Burrow should have a better supporting cast in 19’ and a year of SEC experience under his belt,expect a record setting season
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260404 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:42 pm to
Burrow also had 399 rushing yards.
Posted by K_Tiger
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2015
552 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:43 pm to
All this PLUS burrow can run, Something Mett was never able to do. Add in the fact that burrow has been on campus for only 3 months before starting his first game at LSU and Mett had been here the entire previous spring and season. Burrow will make a huge leap next year.
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:45 pm to
and rushing TDs as well
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32633 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:47 pm to
Joe also has 399 yds rushing and 7 rushing TDs

In 2012 Mett has (-208) and 0 rushing TDs

This post was edited on 1/2/19 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
1920 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

Burrow also had 399 rushing yards


And 7td's. He accounted for 23 TDs this year. The same as Fournette in 2015. To find a QB with more you would need to go back to Flynn's 2007.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260404 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

and rushing TDs as well


Oops, yep you're right.
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
10333 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:55 pm to
Solid thread. Burrow exceeded all reasonable expectations and provides cause for great optimism in 2019.
Posted by DrewSimp82
Shreveport
Member since Apr 2007
1586 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:59 pm to
Thank you for an actual quality post. Upvote
Posted by Lsutigerturner
Member since Dec 2016
5794 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:00 pm to
Geeze I forget how good that roster was. 3 NFL rb starters, 3 NFL wr starters with insane online talent. Such a shame the defense was not up to standard those years, they were good but not the suffocating defense we like to see.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260404 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:00 pm to
We passed for 325 more yards this year than last year.
We ran for more than 400 fewer yards this year

I think an uprade at RB will lead to overall production

No knock on Brosette, he far exceeded what I thought he could do. Just was meant to be a change of pace back
Posted by Born to be a Tiger1
Somewhere lost in Texas
Member since Jan 2018
587 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

burrow has been on campus for only 3 months before starting his first game at LSU and Mett had been here the entire previous spring and season. Burrow will make a huge leap next year.


This is the amazing part that most people overlook. The time Mett had to build timing with two of LSU's best receivers in recent memory and a year to learn the offense vs Burrow's on the job learning the offense while also on the job learning the receivers route running abilities. Burrow is the better QB.
Posted by Moot Point
Georgia
Member since Feb 2009
225 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:08 pm to
Thanks for laying all of that out for us. You really are a Supreme Beef.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26157 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:09 pm to
Brossette was surprisingly good this year. He had always had a problem with fumbles but he held onto the ball pretty well all season this year.
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
1920 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:19 pm to
Another stat I just looked up... Burrow's total offense this season of 3293 is the second most all time for LSU behind only Rohan's 2001.
Posted by TheFunk
Fort Worth
Member since Oct 2016
547 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:19 pm to
BR apparently agrees with this. I consider the source, but article actually provides logical insight.

ETA: forgot to link
LINK
This post was edited on 1/2/19 at 11:22 pm
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