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re: Column: Three-step drop or three steps back?
Posted on 10/23/09 at 2:01 am to Carl Dubois
Posted on 10/23/09 at 2:01 am to Carl Dubois
I can remember the days when moral victories were our chant of the week -- we only lost to Bama 3-0 in the rain and would have lost if Frank Matt hadn't fumbled - not to mention the horror on not winning against them in BR for about 30 years. Do any of you remember how excited we got when we went to the Weed Eater Bowl with Dinardo and slaughtered Saban's MSU, and beating ND with yellow jersey's. I like winning ugly better and being 5-1 with a chance for a great year.Let's hope we beat Auburn or the short memory fans will be looking for the highest tree to hang Les.
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Posted on 10/23/09 at 2:06 am to Carl Dubois
Carl--Didn't know if you saw this on the Rant yesterday, so here it is:
re: I'm kinda of disappointed in Carl Dubois this week (Posted on 10/22/09 at 5:17 a.m. to Carl Dubois)
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Thanks for the response. Every day I stand by what I write. It comes with putting my name on it, and it will always be on the Internet for all to see. There are those who don't get that it is an ongoing part of the concept of signing one's real name, and not an alias, to an opinion. But by putting it under my byline, by definition I am standing by it.
I'm surprised by the angry reactions. I didn't think stating the case for Lee to see the field, and posing the question why not, was such a horrible thing to do.
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Hey, Carl. You don't need me to defend you, but way too many Ranters here have made second-guessing and knee-jerk criticism Olympic sports. Then the herd mentality takes over and suddenly everyone knows more about everything from football to parlor games, and knowing more than those who actually coach the teams (and then, predictably, the players who actually play).
So then, you can imagine how much we have to "prove," early and often, just how greatly superior we are to our fellow posters here. Know what? I'm guilty of doing it, and sometimes have to resist the urge to do it again.
Then I remember that being a sportswriter, sports editor in major (and minor) markets in print and electronic journalism--and working as an SID and in public relations at community colleges and BCS universities for more than a quarter-century--makes me no better than anyone.
And, certainly, not better than Carl.
Many of you flat-out ripped the guy, and any Ranters with whom they disagreed. And what does Carl say to you? A gracious, and not sarcastic, "Thanks for the response."
Think about that.
You may have played and coached sports, but how many of us have written columns, opinion pieces, and news articles--professionally and on deadline--for real newspapers and publications (before there were blogs, Internet message boards, etc. and when there was real competition and not many opportunities to do it)?
I pasted Carl's entire post above for a reason. For those Ranters who have convinced themselves they're somehow experts on any subject just because they own a computer and are fortunate enough have a damn solid outlet in TD.com in which to voice it (just as I'm doing now).
I don't care how much impact the incredible technological advances we've made recently when it comes to our ability to reach people anywhere at any time.
The basic tenet you can't teach, coach (and for many of you, can't even remotely begin to understand) just how meaningful it is to use your "real name" and stand behind what you've said or written, and to truly accept ownership of your work and your opinions.
Whether you agree or disagree with him, don't just read Carl's work. Take notes.
re: I'm kinda of disappointed in Carl Dubois this week (Posted on 10/22/09 at 5:17 a.m. to Carl Dubois)
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Thanks for the response. Every day I stand by what I write. It comes with putting my name on it, and it will always be on the Internet for all to see. There are those who don't get that it is an ongoing part of the concept of signing one's real name, and not an alias, to an opinion. But by putting it under my byline, by definition I am standing by it.
I'm surprised by the angry reactions. I didn't think stating the case for Lee to see the field, and posing the question why not, was such a horrible thing to do.
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Hey, Carl. You don't need me to defend you, but way too many Ranters here have made second-guessing and knee-jerk criticism Olympic sports. Then the herd mentality takes over and suddenly everyone knows more about everything from football to parlor games, and knowing more than those who actually coach the teams (and then, predictably, the players who actually play).
So then, you can imagine how much we have to "prove," early and often, just how greatly superior we are to our fellow posters here. Know what? I'm guilty of doing it, and sometimes have to resist the urge to do it again.
Then I remember that being a sportswriter, sports editor in major (and minor) markets in print and electronic journalism--and working as an SID and in public relations at community colleges and BCS universities for more than a quarter-century--makes me no better than anyone.
And, certainly, not better than Carl.
Many of you flat-out ripped the guy, and any Ranters with whom they disagreed. And what does Carl say to you? A gracious, and not sarcastic, "Thanks for the response."
Think about that.
You may have played and coached sports, but how many of us have written columns, opinion pieces, and news articles--professionally and on deadline--for real newspapers and publications (before there were blogs, Internet message boards, etc. and when there was real competition and not many opportunities to do it)?
I pasted Carl's entire post above for a reason. For those Ranters who have convinced themselves they're somehow experts on any subject just because they own a computer and are fortunate enough have a damn solid outlet in TD.com in which to voice it (just as I'm doing now).
I don't care how much impact the incredible technological advances we've made recently when it comes to our ability to reach people anywhere at any time.
The basic tenet you can't teach, coach (and for many of you, can't even remotely begin to understand) just how meaningful it is to use your "real name" and stand behind what you've said or written, and to truly accept ownership of your work and your opinions.
Whether you agree or disagree with him, don't just read Carl's work. Take notes.
Posted on 10/23/09 at 2:33 am to Genghis Khan
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I can't say I remember a Miles coached team improving during the coarse of the regular season.
2006 was the only team that got better in Miles' tenure.
Posted on 10/23/09 at 12:03 pm to Carl Dubois
Great article, Carl. It appears that some folks just don't get it. It's perfectly okay to be a fan and offer criticism toward your beloved team of choice. You can be a fan and question the coaching staff when things appear to be headed in the wrong direction. It is a fan's perogative to hold high expectations and demand accountability from those in charge when those expectations fall short. This passion, if you will, is what many fans on this site display through their rants and raves regularly and I, for one, appreciate their honesty and point-of-view.
And then there are the fans who never want to take off those rose-colored glasses and face the truth of a situation. They'll quickly flaunt that 5-1 record and question your loyalty toward the team should you point out an obvious flaw. When they finally wake up and stop drinking the kool aid, they might understand that there's nothing wrong with being pro-active and looking ahead.
Here's wishing you all the best...and go Tigers!
And then there are the fans who never want to take off those rose-colored glasses and face the truth of a situation. They'll quickly flaunt that 5-1 record and question your loyalty toward the team should you point out an obvious flaw. When they finally wake up and stop drinking the kool aid, they might understand that there's nothing wrong with being pro-active and looking ahead.
Here's wishing you all the best...and go Tigers!
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