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Collins Procedural Question

Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:04 pm
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4927 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:04 pm
Assuming his innocence, can Collins refuse to sign and re-enter the draft next year?
Posted by glaucon
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2008
5292 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:05 pm to
Yes.
Posted by oldschoolgreats
Member since Nov 2012
1902 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:12 pm to
no, I don't think you can reenter the draft. maybe there is a way sign for 1 year or sit out a year and then be able to sign next year at whatever price you can get.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43067 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:20 pm to
No
Posted by Jonathan Ikon
Member since Aug 2014
537 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:22 pm to
So let's say he is picked in round three. Is he slotted for third round money under the cba or can he take the position he was a first rounder but for the uncertainty and should be paid as such?
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

the position he was a first rounder but for the uncertainty and should be paid as such


Can you imagine the ridiculous can of worms if this was possible?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43067 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:29 pm to
He can demand whatever he wants but that team will be using most of their "rookie wage pool" to sign their first rounder, and second rounder I imagine. Teams only get a set amount to use on rookies. Every rookie contract is 4 years, period. First round picks get a 5th year option.


edit: I just found this on sbnation: If a rookie were to choose not to sign for the entire season, they would be eligible to be drafted in the following draft by any team other than the original drafting team.

maybe he can reenter draft next year after all
This post was edited on 5/1/15 at 12:34 pm
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22151 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:33 pm to
I think he would have to pull his name before he got picked.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43067 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:34 pm to
see my edit above




LINK
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41158 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

Assuming his innocence, can Collins refuse to sign and re-enter the draft next year?


If he is drafted and plays in the CFL the team that drafts him still retains his rights for three years
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4927 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:06 pm to
So is there a definite answer. If he is not drafted until late, can he refuse to sign and re-enter? I might do this, because of the guaranteed money where he should be slotted.Maybe he could be a grad asst. at LSU and work hard to stay in shape.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166135 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:09 pm to
LINK


Go to page 33.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43067 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

So is there a definite answer. If he is not drafted until late, can he refuse to sign and re-enter?
click my link above, apparently you can refuse to sign then reenter draft next year. That team cannot draft you again, although Im sure they wouldn't unless just to frick with you.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

can he take the position he was a first rounder but for the uncertainty and should be paid as such?

No way he could get that because of the slotted pay scale. Not to mention like someone else the can of worms that opens. The only thing he could do is try to get damages for being slandered if he really is completely innocent. But you'd have to prove purposeful malicious intent and I don't see any way that's possible. He really just got screwed all the way around and has to hope someone takes a chance in the 2nd or 3rd so he doesn't free fall.
Posted by agie0320
oviedo, fl
Member since Jul 2009
184 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 3:52 pm to
This is what john Elway did to the colts. He refused to sign in 83 and reentered in 84. The rest is history
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