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re: College football players are they being taken advantage of?
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:55 am to Holden Caulfield
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:55 am to Holden Caulfield
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If education were the primary reason for going to school then athletes would still be happy with the arrangement.
Lots of logic flaws with your statement.
You assume that the athletes are not happy. However the two scenarios you are considering are a scholarship vs. a scholarship and getting paid. I'd say that the fact that so many athletes readily enter the agreement proves that they are happy with the agreement.
How many athletes are good enough for a scholarship and just choose not to take it because the offer isn't worth it?
Plus you ignore the other benefits of going to a University. The opportunity to be prepared for a NFL career is something that many of them view as most attractive.
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Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:56 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
quote:You are referring to the 1% of football players. Those same players will likely get paid in the NFL. I cannot remember any kid passing up 3 years of college football to take a job out of high school to prepare him for an NFL career.
I think the stars of the teams are completely being taken advantage of. The schools and the NCAA can sell and market the jerseys, faces, and likeness of star football players yet those same players won't see a dime of all that money.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:58 am to dante
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You are referring to the 1% of football players
Does the percentage really matter when millions upon millions are being harvested off of these kids' names?
I don't see LSU/NCAA selling in DJ Welter jerseys
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:59 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
quote:
I think the stars of the teams are completely being taken advantage of. The schools and the NCAA can sell and market the jerseys, faces, and likeness of star football players yet those same players won't see a dime of all that money.
Nor should they.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:01 pm to moneyg
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Nor should they.
Should the NCAA have the right to solely capitalize?
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:04 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
look guys, you are making this too complicated. look at last years draft and see the amount of LSU underclassmen that went into the draft. if players were being COMPENSATED FAIRLY there would be much less reason to take the risk some of these guys took to leave school early. you can agree or disagree with their decision, but they all saw it as worth the risk because they were not making jack in college.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:04 pm to moneyg
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You assume that the athletes are not happy.
That's not an assumption. There are student athletes who feel they should be entitled to more of the revenue their sport generates.
quote:
I'd say that the fact that so many athletes readily enter the agreement proves that they are happy with the agreement.
Most are. That's why I added that my comment was not a blanket that covered all.
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:05 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
Where else do these kids go to show case their talent? The NFL doesn't have a true farm system. How does a kid go from a high school to the NFL? These millions of dolars suport a system that allows these talented ones to be seen. These millions of dollars also go to support an educational opportunity for all involved, an opportunity that many would not be able to access, including the ones that have no chance of making it in the NFL. Would you deny the non-"stars" the availability of a university education?
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:09 pm to classof72
No. They get a free education.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:11 pm to Gray Tiger
just because there is no other viable option doesn't mean kids are not taken advantage of. in fact, the college football MONOPOLY SYSTEM is the reason they are taken advantage of.
you have to realize how many other restrictions on the ability to make money that ncaa imposes on kids. no endorsements, no speaking engagements, restrictions on jobs etc. All this is a part of "being taken advantage of".
you have to realize how many other restrictions on the ability to make money that ncaa imposes on kids. no endorsements, no speaking engagements, restrictions on jobs etc. All this is a part of "being taken advantage of".
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:13 pm to oldschoolgreats
quote:
All this is a part of "being taken advantage of"
All this is part of not allowing cheaters to cheat the system even more.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:18 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
quote:No one knows whether or not any of these kids will turn into great football players. JFF gladly accepted a scholarship to A&M. No one predicted he would win the Heisman when he signed. A&M and college football have given him the opportunity to cash in on that for rest of his life. College kids get plenty in return for their efforts in college.
Does the percentage really matter when millions upon millions are being harvested off of these kids' names
90% of all college students have to PAY for the opportunity to get an education.......even with that education they are not guaranteed anything after college.
Does the college scientist who creates/invents something done will using college funds get the credit for the invention/findings.....yes.....does he get paid for it......no.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:18 pm to oldschoolgreats
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but they all saw it as worth the risk because they were not making jack in college.
Kids have dreams, often unrealistic. They have families, friends, etc that always see the big pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. A rainbow that woud have been more unrealistic if the kid had skipped college and tied out for an NFL team. What do you think the value of the position coaches who refine the skills of the talented few? It's part of the college scholarship package. What do you think that a man like Cameron would charge if he wasn't on a college staff? Look into the cost of these elite baseball camps to get some idea. Now see if Glen Dorsey's family would have been able to afford it.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:37 pm to classof72
Tuition
Books/Supplies
Room & Board
Food (for 300 lb lineman for 2-4 years)
Clothing/Gear
World Class Training/Coaching
World Class Healthcare
Priority Scheduling
Access to the best tutors
I'm sure I've missed several perks/benefits of being a NCAA athlete. Factor in no other student gets training for their next seven figure paying job like these guys do. Not to mention they are obtaining all of these monetary and non-monetary items/perks and services TAX FREE.
They bitch about not being able to go get a pizza with their friends on a Friday night bc they have no $$$. Apparently they aren't THAT concerned with it seeing as these kids keeps signing up for it.
Books/Supplies
Room & Board
Food (for 300 lb lineman for 2-4 years)
Clothing/Gear
World Class Training/Coaching
World Class Healthcare
Priority Scheduling
Access to the best tutors
I'm sure I've missed several perks/benefits of being a NCAA athlete. Factor in no other student gets training for their next seven figure paying job like these guys do. Not to mention they are obtaining all of these monetary and non-monetary items/perks and services TAX FREE.
They bitch about not being able to go get a pizza with their friends on a Friday night bc they have no $$$. Apparently they aren't THAT concerned with it seeing as these kids keeps signing up for it.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:39 pm to dcrews
quote:
I'm sure I've missed several perks/benefits of being a NCAA athlete
quote:
Access to the best vayjayjay
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:44 pm to dcrews
if you assume every kid gets a $25,000 scholarship then 85 kids on scholarship is app. $2 mil which is app. one half of what miles makes.\
miles makes twice as much as the entire team, seems about fair to me. right.
miles makes twice as much as the entire team, seems about fair to me. right.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:45 pm to Chimlim
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No. They get a free education.
Oh, if they stopped showing up to practice, they would still get it? I didn't know it was free.
Additionally, please show your work where you calculated that the education they receive is equal to the value they provide the school?
Or are you just saying things?
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:50 pm to dante
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90% of all college students have to PAY for the opportunity to get an education.......even with that education they are not guaranteed anything after college.
Irrelevant. 90% of college students are schmucks who nobody will pay to see play. I can't fathom how there are people illogical enough to bring this up.
Just because you are jealous of somebody and would trade places with them does not mean they aren't being taken advantage of. It just means they have a skill to be taken advantage of that you losers will never have.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:51 pm to oldschoolgreats
I think an athletic scholarship should have the same sort of stipend that a scholarship ROTC cadet gets.
Scholarship cadets get tuition, books, and supplies; universities normally throw in room and board because Uncle pays full ride...
last stipend amount I heard was something in the range of $400- a month...
what I think has changed in today's environment is that it's pretty much impossible for a scholarship athlete to have a job on the side, even during the summer...
Scholarship cadets get tuition, books, and supplies; universities normally throw in room and board because Uncle pays full ride...
last stipend amount I heard was something in the range of $400- a month...
what I think has changed in today's environment is that it's pretty much impossible for a scholarship athlete to have a job on the side, even during the summer...
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:58 pm to TheSexecutioner
quote:Sorry you lost your football scholarship.
Just because you are jealous of somebody and would trade places with them does not mean they aren't being taken advantage of. It just means they have a skill to be taken advantage of that you losers will never have.
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