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College Baseball National Seed Race getting tighter

Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:09 am
Posted by tadelatt
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Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:09 am
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I am sure this has been already added but just in case, for all of the NegaTigers out there, here is a little proof about what LSU could turn into with a good weekend in Starkville
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:10 am to
I keep saying this, but even if we don't get top 8 seeding, we have a good shot at getting a Super if we're around 10th in their rankings.

Doubtful all 8 get out of their regionals.

ETA:

I'm kind of wrong. Was thinking it re-seeded...I am a dolt. Shame me.
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 11:19 am
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:11 am to
It only matters if the national seed we match up with makes it through the regional.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:13 am to
I hope LSU gets a national seed. But holy shite if they do Matt Mascona is going to be insufferable. I can almost hear him now

I SAID IT ALL SEASON LONG. 20 wins in Conference play and LSU will be a national seed. ALL YOU CHICKEN LITTLES CRYING ABOUT MID WEEK GAMES.....I'm Matt Mascooonnna.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:13 am to
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I keep saying this, but even if we don't get top 8 seeding, we have a good shot at getting a Super if we're around 10th in their rankings.

Doubtful all 8 get out of their regionals.



After the top 8 it doesn't matter where you are because the bracket is set. They don't re-seed at any point.

Super regional pairings are mostly done by geography. The 1 seed could be paired with the theoretical 9 seed if they are close to each other.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:17 am to
But won't the seeding matter because the 7/8 teams are worse and will get matched up with 9/10, thus 9/10 have a higher chance of backing into a Super?

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:18 am to
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Super regional pairings are mostly done by geography. The 1 seed could be paired with the theoretical 9 seed if they are close to each other.


Gotcha.

Nvm then...I have a hard time believing we get shutout of the top 8 anyway with a 2-1 series win (20 SEC wins) and a decent tourny showing.

Will be a great series.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:18 am to
He could be less douchey about it but he isn't wrong. I got a chance to listen to his opening from yesterday everyone was freaking out about finally and everything he said he was correct about. He just could have said it and not been a complete a jackass while saying it.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
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Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:21 am to
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College Baseball National Seed Race getting tighter by geauxtigers33
He could be less douchey about it but he isn't wrong. I got a chance to listen to his opening from yesterday everyone was freaking out about finally and everything he said he was correct about. He just could have said it and not been a complete a jackass while saying it.


I agree with you 100%. He is a douche bag. He's right but he is still a giant douche bag.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:23 am to
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But won't the seeding matter because the 7/8 teams are worse and will get matched up with 9/10, thus 9/10 have a higher chance of backing into a Super?


In theory yes but like the poster said above more times than not they try and place regional hosts next to each other for geography reasons.

For example if Florida is a super regional host they won't pair them up with Arizona but instead will place Virginia in that spot and send Arizona to maybe a TCU or Texas Tech who is not only out of their conference but closer down the road.

They won't pair regional hosts from the same conference together but two teams meeting up from the same conference in Omaha happens quite a bit.
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 11:24 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:24 am to
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He could be less douchey about it but he isn't wrong. I got a chance to listen to his opening from yesterday everyone was freaking out about finally and everything he said he was correct about. He just could have said it and not been a complete a jackass while saying it.
He's not wrong or right at this point. No one is. And that's why he's a dumbass.

If LSU gets a national seed, he'll be right. Those 6 (or 7) losses didn't matter in the end. If they don't, people will point to those losses as a reason. And of course, he'll point to the SEC losses only. The truth is that if this happens, if LSU misses a national seed just barely, they could have gotten it either way: winning 4 or so more midweek games or probably just winning another SEC game or two.

What's hilarious is that there are probably more instances where LSU doesn't get a seed. And if the field was made today, LSU likely wouldn't be top 8. So much depends on other teams. Yet here is is claiming victory. Again. Dumb. arse.
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 11:27 am
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5071 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:46 am to
The problem with the mid-week losses is that you are leaving a lot up to the rest of the conference. If all 14 teams have crappy mid-week losses, that brings down the conference RPI and the committee can start saying "sure they had 20 conference wins, but the SEC is down this year, 3rd or 4th best conference." If you take care of your mid-week games, you leave a lot less up to chance.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:59 am to
His favorite thing to do is point out UF's midweek losses. Let's compare:

UF's midweek losses:
*RPI in ()


@Jacksonville (80) on 2/21
@UCF (25) on 3/1
@FGCU (55) on 3/7
FGCU (55) on 3/8
South Florida (19) on 5/9

So 5 losses. 3 of them away. Avg RPI of 46.8. 4 of the 5 in the first 4 weeks of the season.


LSU's midweek losses:
*RPI in ()


@UNO (123) on 2/21
@McNeese (37) on 3/8
UNO (123) on 3/15
Tulane (79) on 3/28
@Tulane (79) on 4/25
USA (38) on 5/9

6 losses. 3 at home. Avg RPI is 79.8. 3 of the 6 in the last 2 months.

Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7273 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:34 pm to
This team would Easily be a national seed if not for lack of control with regards to pitching...except for Walker. Wayyyy too many walks and wayyyy to many bad counts for pitcher. Lange is starting to regain control fortunately.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:36 pm to
Not as worried about Lange as I am Poche. Leaving the ball up a ton.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7273 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:37 pm to
No doubt...Poche has been living up in the zone way more than normal
Posted by SanFranTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2003
4897 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:49 pm to
Life is easier as a higher national seed though.

Mainieri's middling results in mid-week games is frustrating and one of the reasons he will never be compared to someone like Skip Bertman, who taught those guys at every chance to visualize success and succeed at every turn.

/rant
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:56 pm to
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Mainieri's middling results in mid-week games is frustrating and one of the reasons he will never be compared to someone like Skip Bertman, who taught those guys at every chance to visualize success and succeed at every turn.
PM went something like 5 years winning a ton of midweeks with 3 of those years having not lost a single one IIRC.
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Skip Bertman, who taught those guys at every chance to visualize success and succeed at every turn.
Skip's mental game was strong, no doubt. But his teams lost plenty of OOC games.
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
22817 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:58 pm to
Damn shame you couldn't add Stetson to Florida's midweek losses....
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 1:09 pm to
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Damn shame you couldn't add Stetson to Florida's midweek losses....
Or Louisiana College's win for LSU which, if given an RPI, would be even worse.
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