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re: Coaches Hot Seat goes off on Leslie Edwin Miles
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:52 pm to 1999
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:52 pm to 1999
Horribly written and extremely hard to read, but...
They are correct that Les will never take responsibility and accept that his offense is not the right way to play in the new era that is college football. I like the guy but he is stubborn as any person I've ever seen.
That stubbornness will cause him to fail at his next job, unless he has an epiphany.
They are correct that Les will never take responsibility and accept that his offense is not the right way to play in the new era that is college football. I like the guy but he is stubborn as any person I've ever seen.
That stubbornness will cause him to fail at his next job, unless he has an epiphany.
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:05 pm to SportTiger1
Miles coaching has been a joke and Everone in the football Ops building bas basically said that. Didn't know he was the dictator he was but I should've figured it out long ago. Stupid of me to ever think his short sided stubborn arse would ever hire the right OC and change offensively. I'm so glad his arse is gone.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:10 pm to Choctaw
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Choctaw
I'd like an essay by Friday on why you still post on this board.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:13 pm to ShortyRob
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Talking to that man in a coaching meeting must occasionally make his assistants want to eat glass.
Or suck on a shotgun.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:33 pm to 1999
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“I don’t give a damn who judges us or who judges me.”
And that's why he was never going to change his offense
And that is why he hired his BBQ buddies to co-ruin LSUs defense
And that's why BDP got rehired
And that's why he intentionally misled and spouted BS in his media appearances
And that's why performing players suddenly disappeared from the lineup
And that was why he was never going to leave JLee in as starting QB
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“I don’t give a damn”
Maybe he does now
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:53 pm to RobbBobb
I just don't understand why this is such an abhorrent way to coach to some of you.
Les Miles has a background in offense. He was an offensive lineman, coached the OL, coached TEs, and was an OC. He ends up as a head coach at Oklahoma State. He does well enough there to be a candidate for the LSU position when it opens up. He comes here and wins the division twice in 3 years and a NC in that 3rd year. He has shown a reluctancy to open up the offense but still did so early on in his tenure here. He gets ruined in 2008 due to the turnovers and reverts back to the style he knows and the style that basically got him to where he was in the first place. An elite defense and special teams plus some timely QB play helps him pull off the greatest regular season in CFB history in 2011, all but cementing his style of play as the only way to go. He opened things up here and there since then, but by and large he reverted back to that style when things got tough and the pressure was dialed up.
People like to point out that Stoops and Saban changed their offense after the game started to change, but both of those guys have a defensive background. They treat their defense the same way Miles treated his offense - they're the experts and they know best. Miles has largely left the defense alone and Stoops and Saban have done the same to their offense. The difference for Miles is that he was simply wrong and it wasn't going to work anymore.
People acting surprised by all these "revelations" about Miles were either naive or are being willfully ignorant. Every coach in the country does the same thing.
Les Miles has a background in offense. He was an offensive lineman, coached the OL, coached TEs, and was an OC. He ends up as a head coach at Oklahoma State. He does well enough there to be a candidate for the LSU position when it opens up. He comes here and wins the division twice in 3 years and a NC in that 3rd year. He has shown a reluctancy to open up the offense but still did so early on in his tenure here. He gets ruined in 2008 due to the turnovers and reverts back to the style he knows and the style that basically got him to where he was in the first place. An elite defense and special teams plus some timely QB play helps him pull off the greatest regular season in CFB history in 2011, all but cementing his style of play as the only way to go. He opened things up here and there since then, but by and large he reverted back to that style when things got tough and the pressure was dialed up.
People like to point out that Stoops and Saban changed their offense after the game started to change, but both of those guys have a defensive background. They treat their defense the same way Miles treated his offense - they're the experts and they know best. Miles has largely left the defense alone and Stoops and Saban have done the same to their offense. The difference for Miles is that he was simply wrong and it wasn't going to work anymore.
People acting surprised by all these "revelations" about Miles were either naive or are being willfully ignorant. Every coach in the country does the same thing.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:08 pm to 1999
Miles should honestly retire. It didn't end well but it was a very good run, set a lot of records, won a NC, etc. He's not getting another gig like LSU. In a few years he will still be mostly revered by the LSU fan base.
I'm glad we have moved on, but I'd hate to see him go somewhere like Kentucky and fail miserably.
I'm glad we have moved on, but I'd hate to see him go somewhere like Kentucky and fail miserably.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:14 pm to Damone
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Everyone knew this but the Miles cultists.
I dont know one poster that wasnt in favor of firing Miles for Jimbo.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:22 pm to ShortyRob
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The rant is humorous but totally on point with one thing.
Miles interview was NOT class.
It was an exercise in public ego masturbation.
Miles has you so mad. He's gone, let your hate go.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:23 pm to slackster
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but still did so early on in his tenure here.
Not No, but Hell No
He just kept running what Jimbo was already running, because it worked. But in 2006, you could start to see Miles choking down on the offense. Then Jimbo leaves for the same position elsewhere. Hmmmmm
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He gets ruined in 2008 due to the turnovers
Well, perhaps if some dipshit didn't hire his BBQ buddies to co-ruin the defense, then maybe his Fr QB would have had an opportunity to develop properly. Like he had by his Sr year
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some timely QB play
A Qb that only played because it was forced on Miles, and was benched at the earliest defensible time. Who the hell benches an undefeated QB after 2 interceptions? What the hell kind of coaching is that. UNDEFEATED as a QB!!
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:31 pm to golftigers
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he will still be mostly revered by the LSU fan base.
I disagree
2011 cut deep. And was only reinforced by the mediocre years that followed
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:45 pm to TigerFanFromBama
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I think Miles will land at Kentucky when the smoke clears.
Miles is finished. His head coaching days are done.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:47 pm to RobbBobb
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he will still be mostly revered by the LSU fan base.
Only by the ones who fell asleep or left early because of his boring offense.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:50 pm to RobbBobb
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RobbBobb
You're missing the point - I'm just giving a synopsis of the timeline with Miles. It isn't a defense of him.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:59 pm to 1999
It fits from what I've heard from inside the program. Les truly believes he's smarter than everybody else and won't hear different. Bit him in the arse finally
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:02 pm to 1999
A lot of truth in there but could have worded better.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:08 pm to Damone
quote:yet it would have been Jimbo, not Herman.
By all rights Les Miles should have been fired last December and LSU could have hired Tom Herman and avoided the mess that the 2016 season has become
Everyone knew this but the Miles cultists
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:12 pm to slackster
So, since coach O was neither an offensive or defensive coordinator, that means he would be a perfect 'coaches' coach, right?
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:17 pm to dbbuilder79
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So, since coach O was neither an offensive or defensive coordinator, that means he would be a perfect 'coaches' coach, right?
Orgeron has never been on the offensive side of the ball, so he sure as hell isn't going to stick his head there. He was also only the DL coach here so I doubt he is telling his old boss (Aranda) much.
He's perfect for what we need right now, yes.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:27 pm to slackster
I wonder if it was Aranda who suggested the shorter practices and more film study as well. This sounds like an Aranda move
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