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Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:02 pm to Jones
It's a cowards way out, these guys know LSU is competing with Bama, he's from La. and LSU is doing their best to become or stop the Bama love fest.
My point was be your own man instead of taking the easy route. No player picking LSU especially at his position is making a mistake in of its self so why spurn ya home town Tigers to play for Bama, when you know that LSU is trying to compete with them and start a dynasty themselves. Come start your own dynasty here instead of helping Bama stack up. His coach may not even be there by the time he starts being how so many Bama coaches leave every year. Like I said big mistake
My point was be your own man instead of taking the easy route. No player picking LSU especially at his position is making a mistake in of its self so why spurn ya home town Tigers to play for Bama, when you know that LSU is trying to compete with them and start a dynasty themselves. Come start your own dynasty here instead of helping Bama stack up. His coach may not even be there by the time he starts being how so many Bama coaches leave every year. Like I said big mistake
This post was edited on 1/1/17 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:03 pm to BayouBengal99
Dude you compared a guy that had zero offers to be a head coach anywhere in the country to the likes of Jimmy Johnson and Pete Carroll. O couldn't even get the Syracuse job.
Oh he knows what it takes to beat Saban? Great. I think everyone knows what it takes. Doing it is the hard part.
I hope he does well but hiring O was cheap, dumb, and lazy on Joe's part.
Oh he knows what it takes to beat Saban? Great. I think everyone knows what it takes. Doing it is the hard part.
I hope he does well but hiring O was cheap, dumb, and lazy on Joe's part.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:06 pm to Jones
I didn't compare him to anyone, I said he will in the future be considered on of those types of coaches. That's of course once he takes Saban down. You watch how dumb these people look when he turns this program completely around. Read a little closer.
This post was edited on 1/1/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:09 pm to munchman
quote:agree with you, all points, especially about reserving final judgement (uber good OR apocolypse) on CEO. Happy to see CEO/CSE keep doing what was working and challenge Louisville to stop it and not play into their hands and gift the losing team the initiative and momentum.
munchman
quote:agree with you too. That OL is likely going to make or break CEO. Be interesting to see what happens with Grimes, presumably after signing day. Has he been handcuffed/interfered with? Is he just not good? Will CEO give him a full season without Miles? We will see, as the zen master said.
BayouBengal99
quote:on what you said about doing whatever it takes, as far as recruiting goes... also be interesting to watch if CEO changes the long standing 'rules' for LSU recruiting. Specifically offers to in-state recruits. In the past LSU resisted (not quite refused) giving offers to kids they didn't know absolutely sure they would have room for. On one hand, prevented having to grey shirt or 'process' in-state talent and avoided some very bad blood, especially with the HS coaches. On the other hand, created bad blood when some deserving kids just weren't getting offers. In short, will CEO treat the entire US as the same recruiting ground. I hope we go to a system where we're offering those we want, and offering those who the other teams want.
BayouBengal99
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:10 pm to Jones
We'll see about that won't we, it's only cheap dumb and lazy of it doesn't work. If it does work which I believe it will, it will have been one of the smartest hires ever in CFB history and could even change the way ADs consider hiring coaches.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:10 pm to BayouBengal99
30 years into the coaching gig he is just going to turn it around and be considered one of the all time greats. OK
Have a good new year. Don't hurt yourself
Have a good new year. Don't hurt yourself
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:11 pm to Jones
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Dude you compared a guy that had zero offers to be a head coach anywhere in the country to the likes of Jimmy Johnson and Pete Carroll. O couldn't even get the Syracuse job
I'm all aboard the "Coach O" was a bad hire train. However, I'm tired of seeing this.
We have no idea who would've offered Orgeron if we didn't hire him. His resume looked a lot different in November than it did last season. He would've gotten offers if we didn't hire him.
Maybe not P5 offers but I'm willing to bet he would've landed a better gig than kiffen did.
That doesn't make hiring him at LSU a good hire but we don't have to pretend it's worse than it is.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:11 pm to Jones
Huh?
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:14 pm to Jones
No I said if he is the one that beats Saban or takes Bama off of their throne, then puts LSU up there for an extended period of time, wins multiple championships or is repeatedly in the playoffs then he will most certainly be considered one of the best.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:16 pm to Jones
How would i hurt myself? Are you threatening me?
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:16 pm to BayouBengal99
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just don't understand all the hate for him
Let me try to explain it.
Say your kid needs an operation. You check around trying to find a surgeon. You find one that you like and you even have a lot in common with the guy. A guy you can really relate to, but after talking to some other people you find out he's had some problems in the past. Killed a couple kids due to his incompetence. Made some bad decisions. Hasn't operated since, but he feels that he's improved because he knows what went wrong the last time.
So what do you do? Do you give him your child and hope for the best, or do you keep looking for another doctor?
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:16 pm to CottonWasKing
At least you admit it was a bad hire.
The other guy is the type of person that helps Alleva keep his job. Any rational person knows it was a bad hire that should result in JA losing his job, but plenty of people will blindly support it because they feel it will make them a bad fan if they don't.
Or they just don't realize the hire was bad.
The other guy is the type of person that helps Alleva keep his job. Any rational person knows it was a bad hire that should result in JA losing his job, but plenty of people will blindly support it because they feel it will make them a bad fan if they don't.
Or they just don't realize the hire was bad.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:20 pm to INFIDEL
Worst comparison I've ever seen lol
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:21 pm to munchman
I can sleep tonight. Thanks 
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:21 pm to INFIDEL
quote:
So what do you do? Do you give him your child and hope for the best, or do you keep looking for another doctor?
Name 3 big name hires that LSU missed on.
Jumbo plunked us for a contract extension--and was NEVER coming to LSU.
Herman wanted and got his dream job.
So name three...just so we have this BS on record.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:22 pm to Jones
quote:
At least you admit it was a bad hire.
It was definitely a bad hire. I've got news for those people,even if he ends up doing great it was still a bad hire. In that case we would have just gotten lucky with our bad hire.
I personally think Coach O would've been hired at Purdue or Baylor if we didn't hire him.
Also for the record I love the man and hope he is amazing. I'm truly pulling for him. I just think that LSU is too great of a program to talk to 2 guys then hire the dline coach.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:22 pm to CottonWasKing
quote:
We have no idea who would've offered Orgeron if we didn't hire him. His resume looked a lot different in November than it did last season. He would've gotten offers if we didn't hire him.
quote:
Maybe not P5 offers but I'm willing to bet he would've landed a better gig than kiffen did.
I think it's understood that we mean he had no serious P5 offers. O could've absolutely have gotten a group of 5 job.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:24 pm to Goldrush25
quote:
I think it's understood that we mean he had no serious P5 offers. O could've absolutely have gotten a group of 5 job.
This year? Absolutely. Last year? Well he wouldn't have been at LSU if he could have.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 4:26 pm to munchman
quote:
Name 3 big name hires that LSU missed on
We will never know because we never tried to hire anyone besides Jimbo and Herman.
That was our job search
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