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Catcher position?

Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:42 pm
Posted by tiger nutz
Madison
Member since Oct 2005
911 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:42 pm
Does everyone still believe Pap needs to be out there because of his defense.....4 errors on the year and a high percentage on stolen bases against him? Florida 4 of 5 on stolen bases today. Is Romero hurt that bad?? I know Coomes hasn't gotten the number of ABs needed to prove his way into the lineup for the tough SEC grind but PM needs to start getting him some in midweek games
Posted by Noplacelikehome
Member since Oct 2010
2154 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:00 pm to
I get where you are coming from bc pap is struggling at the plate. But you need to know that throwing a runner out isn't all on the catcher. LSU threw 3 freshmen and a sophomore today.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21059 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:10 pm to
I know people hate on Pap a whole ton. People will never admit it, but Lange and Pap were solely responsible for LSU staying close in that game Friday. Pap threw out some key runners trying to steal. UF gets more in scoring position, bunts them over then they could have easily scored 2-3 runs.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9119 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:15 pm to
Pap is easily the best defensive catcher and it's really not close. I would keep him in but they really need to be more diciplined at the plate. They have to practice situational offense in the coming weeks. Work on Getting runners in that are ISP, continuing an inning with two outs, and getting the lead batter on. They haven't been bad getting the lead batter on but once he's on they need to practice getting him in.

Their offense needs some work, hit and run, bunting, stealing bases really getting good jumps. I don't see guys choking up, or when there is a man ISP just making sure you get a solid hit. I just see them having bad at bats when there are runners ISP. That needs to change and choke up when necessary. GT
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 6:31 am to
Pap has thrown out like 40 percent of runners this year. That's above average. He has made some errors but compared to the other two he's the best defensive guy.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21059 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:23 am to
Be careful, I said this after Saturday's game and got BLASTED. Dude stole off of Coomes on a pitch out, and they were saying it was on the pitcher not Coomes.

Posters here hate certain players and coaches and will see what they want in order to continue to rag on them.

Like I said, Pap keeping people from stealing bases against us is a BIG DEAL. If he's our best option defensively then he needs to play. Only way that changes is if we get someone hitting consistently at the DH position, AND one of the catchers (Romero/Coomes) starts tearing the cover off the ball. That's it.

If the back up catcher can hit, he needs to DH. If there is another very productive DH then MAYBE you swap Pap with him.

I wasn't for Pap playing before this weekend, but after seeing the catching position Friday and Saturday, Paps the best choice right now.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22154 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:30 am to
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Be careful, I said this after Saturday's game and got BLASTED. Dude stole off of Coomes on a pitch out, and they were saying it was on the pitcher not Coomes.


He double clutched on the transfer. It's not like he caught it clean, was clean on the transfer and still couldn't throw the guy out.

Pap dropped a critical strike (which was then called a ball) on Friday night that could have been the difference in the game.

I still think pap is our best defensive catcher, but it's not by as wide a margin as people think. He's really struggled receiving the ball this year.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65881 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:32 am to
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PM needs to start getting him some in midweek games



see, if you had been actually following the team, you'd know coomes has a hip ailment. It doesn't sound like he will be able to catch back to back games this season.

I'm not really defending pap but, right now he is the best option we've got.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 7:33 am
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21059 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:34 am to
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I still think pap is our best defensive catcher, but it's not by as wide a margin as people think. He's really struggled receiving the ball this year


I agree. Like I said, I was in favor of him sitting coming into the weekend. His defense hasn't been great, but he's proven to be the best option defensively.

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He double clutched on the transfer. It's not like he caught it clean, was clean on the transfer and still couldn't throw the guy out


He struggled to get it out of his glove on a pitch out. That's a pretty big deal, especially when you are giving away a pitch. You guess correct, have to get him....and should get the runner easily. His hitting didn't outshine the defense...and even if it did, he should DH.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:00 am to
quote:

Pap dropped a critical strike (which was then called a ball) on Friday night that could have been the difference in the game


That guy you talk about still ended up striking out. Coomes didn't block a very lockable pitch that allowed a run to score Saturday while the game was still in doubt at that point.

I agree Pap is not the best defensive catcher by far but he is the best defensive catcher. As I've said many times Pap will catch every time Lange pitches the rest of this year people need to just get over and accept that. Lange trust Pap and the starting pitcher does and should have a huge say on who is catching.
Posted by GoodOleBoy54
Member since Apr 2015
99 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:21 am to
I am by no means happy with the way Pap has played up to this point, he could do so much better at the plate and has made a few too many errors behind the plate. BUT I still feel he is the best option, Romero seems to be hurt and Coomes is just a real liability behind the plate I just don't have trust in his abilities to play error free baseball and he isn't much of an improvement at the plate. Pap is the best option and we should stick with him.
Posted by tiger nutz
Madison
Member since Oct 2005
911 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:09 am to
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Pap will catch every time Lange pitches the rest of this year


I agree with this and do think Pap is the best at blocking up balls. Lange needs Pap catching! I also agree Pap is our best defensive catcher but by how far? I thought Romero did a good enough job last year to have his bat in the line up and PM did a nice job using the 2 catchers in their particular roles last year.
Posted by Broham
Crowley
Member since Feb 2005
18385 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:16 am to
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Dude stole off of Coomes on a pitch out,

Yeah, because that's never happened to Pap..
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42503 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:18 am to
Gibbs and Cain working with the catchers.
Just saying!
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29288 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Dude stole off of Coomes on a pitch out, and they were saying it was on the pitcher not Coomes.


Damn you were talking to a bonafide idiot.
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
5482 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:00 pm to
So is Pap going to stick around another year?
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42503 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:24 pm to
Pap is not getting drafted based off performance this year. LSU is bringing in Feduccia JC catcher and whatever high school fr comes in and if they are capable of hitting 250 and provide d they will start
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:31 pm to
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I thought Romero did a good enough job


Do we even know if Romero is healthy enough to catch a 9 inning game?
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:33 pm to
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Pap is not getting drafted based off performance this year.


Pap is going to get drafted. How high? Probably not very but a team will draft him and see if they can sign him. MLB scouts don't care if you can hit as a catcher. It's a plus but it's down the list on what they look for out of a catcher.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21059 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

Gibbs and Cain working with the catchers. 
Just saying!


So are we now saying that Gibbs sucked as a catcher too?
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