- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Catcher position?
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:42 pm
Does everyone still believe Pap needs to be out there because of his defense.....4 errors on the year and a high percentage on stolen bases against him? Florida 4 of 5 on stolen bases today. Is Romero hurt that bad?? I know Coomes hasn't gotten the number of ABs needed to prove his way into the lineup for the tough SEC grind but PM needs to start getting him some in midweek games
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:00 pm to tiger nutz
I get where you are coming from bc pap is struggling at the plate. But you need to know that throwing a runner out isn't all on the catcher. LSU threw 3 freshmen and a sophomore today.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:10 pm to Noplacelikehome
I know people hate on Pap a whole ton. People will never admit it, but Lange and Pap were solely responsible for LSU staying close in that game Friday. Pap threw out some key runners trying to steal. UF gets more in scoring position, bunts them over then they could have easily scored 2-3 runs.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:15 pm to tiger nutz
Pap is easily the best defensive catcher and it's really not close. I would keep him in but they really need to be more diciplined at the plate. They have to practice situational offense in the coming weeks. Work on Getting runners in that are ISP, continuing an inning with two outs, and getting the lead batter on. They haven't been bad getting the lead batter on but once he's on they need to practice getting him in.
Their offense needs some work, hit and run, bunting, stealing bases really getting good jumps. I don't see guys choking up, or when there is a man ISP just making sure you get a solid hit. I just see them having bad at bats when there are runners ISP. That needs to change and choke up when necessary. GT
Their offense needs some work, hit and run, bunting, stealing bases really getting good jumps. I don't see guys choking up, or when there is a man ISP just making sure you get a solid hit. I just see them having bad at bats when there are runners ISP. That needs to change and choke up when necessary. GT
Posted on 3/27/17 at 6:31 am to tiger nutz
Pap has thrown out like 40 percent of runners this year. That's above average. He has made some errors but compared to the other two he's the best defensive guy.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:23 am to geauxtigers33
Be careful, I said this after Saturday's game and got BLASTED. Dude stole off of Coomes on a pitch out, and they were saying it was on the pitcher not Coomes.
Posters here hate certain players and coaches and will see what they want in order to continue to rag on them.
Like I said, Pap keeping people from stealing bases against us is a BIG DEAL. If he's our best option defensively then he needs to play. Only way that changes is if we get someone hitting consistently at the DH position, AND one of the catchers (Romero/Coomes) starts tearing the cover off the ball. That's it.
If the back up catcher can hit, he needs to DH. If there is another very productive DH then MAYBE you swap Pap with him.
I wasn't for Pap playing before this weekend, but after seeing the catching position Friday and Saturday, Paps the best choice right now.
Posters here hate certain players and coaches and will see what they want in order to continue to rag on them.
Like I said, Pap keeping people from stealing bases against us is a BIG DEAL. If he's our best option defensively then he needs to play. Only way that changes is if we get someone hitting consistently at the DH position, AND one of the catchers (Romero/Coomes) starts tearing the cover off the ball. That's it.
If the back up catcher can hit, he needs to DH. If there is another very productive DH then MAYBE you swap Pap with him.
I wasn't for Pap playing before this weekend, but after seeing the catching position Friday and Saturday, Paps the best choice right now.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:30 am to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
Be careful, I said this after Saturday's game and got BLASTED. Dude stole off of Coomes on a pitch out, and they were saying it was on the pitcher not Coomes.
He double clutched on the transfer. It's not like he caught it clean, was clean on the transfer and still couldn't throw the guy out.
Pap dropped a critical strike (which was then called a ball) on Friday night that could have been the difference in the game.
I still think pap is our best defensive catcher, but it's not by as wide a margin as people think. He's really struggled receiving the ball this year.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:32 am to tiger nutz
quote:
PM needs to start getting him some in midweek games
see, if you had been actually following the team, you'd know coomes has a hip ailment. It doesn't sound like he will be able to catch back to back games this season.
I'm not really defending pap but, right now he is the best option we've got.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 7:33 am
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:34 am to UpToPar
quote:
I still think pap is our best defensive catcher, but it's not by as wide a margin as people think. He's really struggled receiving the ball this year
I agree. Like I said, I was in favor of him sitting coming into the weekend. His defense hasn't been great, but he's proven to be the best option defensively.
quote:
He double clutched on the transfer. It's not like he caught it clean, was clean on the transfer and still couldn't throw the guy out
He struggled to get it out of his glove on a pitch out. That's a pretty big deal, especially when you are giving away a pitch. You guess correct, have to get him....and should get the runner easily. His hitting didn't outshine the defense...and even if it did, he should DH.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:00 am to UpToPar
quote:
Pap dropped a critical strike (which was then called a ball) on Friday night that could have been the difference in the game
That guy you talk about still ended up striking out. Coomes didn't block a very lockable pitch that allowed a run to score Saturday while the game was still in doubt at that point.
I agree Pap is not the best defensive catcher by far but he is the best defensive catcher. As I've said many times Pap will catch every time Lange pitches the rest of this year people need to just get over and accept that. Lange trust Pap and the starting pitcher does and should have a huge say on who is catching.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:21 am to tiger nutz
I am by no means happy with the way Pap has played up to this point, he could do so much better at the plate and has made a few too many errors behind the plate. BUT I still feel he is the best option, Romero seems to be hurt and Coomes is just a real liability behind the plate I just don't have trust in his abilities to play error free baseball and he isn't much of an improvement at the plate. Pap is the best option and we should stick with him.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:09 am to geauxtigers33
quote:
Pap will catch every time Lange pitches the rest of this year
I agree with this and do think Pap is the best at blocking up balls. Lange needs Pap catching! I also agree Pap is our best defensive catcher but by how far? I thought Romero did a good enough job last year to have his bat in the line up and PM did a nice job using the 2 catchers in their particular roles last year.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:16 am to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
Dude stole off of Coomes on a pitch out,
Yeah, because that's never happened to Pap..
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:18 am to Broham
Gibbs and Cain working with the catchers.
Just saying!
Just saying!
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:56 am to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
Dude stole off of Coomes on a pitch out, and they were saying it was on the pitcher not Coomes.
Damn you were talking to a bonafide idiot.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:00 pm to LSU316
So is Pap going to stick around another year?
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:24 pm to TBoy@LSU
Pap is not getting drafted based off performance this year. LSU is bringing in Feduccia JC catcher and whatever high school fr comes in and if they are capable of hitting 250 and provide d they will start
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:31 pm to tiger nutz
quote:
I thought Romero did a good enough job
Do we even know if Romero is healthy enough to catch a 9 inning game?
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:33 pm to nicholastiger
quote:
Pap is not getting drafted based off performance this year.
Pap is going to get drafted. How high? Probably not very but a team will draft him and see if they can sign him. MLB scouts don't care if you can hit as a catcher. It's a plus but it's down the list on what they look for out of a catcher.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:44 pm to nicholastiger
quote:
Gibbs and Cain working with the catchers.
Just saying!
So are we now saying that Gibbs sucked as a catcher too?
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News