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re: Can we as a fan base not recognize that young QB's develop over time?

Posted on 12/11/15 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

An you want me to take a statistics class?


Maybe you should proofread your own post...

I didn't think you'd be able to argue the actual content either
This post was edited on 12/11/15 at 6:50 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 6:50 pm to
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Jefferson Pass Attempts
2008: 73
2009: 296
2010: 209
2011: 100

Come on man.


OK?

That's kind of my entire point
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 6:51 pm to
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could have been. Is that your hypothesis?

Mett started for two years at LSU. His second year was much better than his first year. He developed over time. That's my thesis. I supported it with facts.




Not at all. Just trying to show holes in your idiotic logic
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70927 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 6:59 pm to
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 7:05 pm to
Winston won a championship as a redshirt freshman ...

Highest paid coaching staff in America. One of the best in recruiting. Stop the young excuses. It's coaching.
This post was edited on 12/11/15 at 7:13 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10095 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

QB- 1 NFL player who competed for the starting job in Tennessee as a rookie who was an absolute perfect fit for LSU's offense
WR- 2 future rookie NFL starters, one of which is probably the best rookie in the NFL (Beckham) and the other is doing really, really well (Landry)
It escapes you these players were in no way NFL ready in 2012.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65296 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:59 pm to
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Let's give Harris 3 more years before we write him off.





Holy shite, you can't be serious
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 1:24 am to
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I spoke with Lee and his Dad a few years ago when I saw them at a festival in Brenham,


Yea, well I talked to a guy whose third cousin was best friends with a friend of JL's and he says that is bullshite.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 1:25 am to
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Having to use gross exaggeration


It's not an exaggeration of any kind when it is right in front of you on this board every day
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6065 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 2:42 am to
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It's not an exaggeration of any kind when it is right in front of you on this board every day


Every day? Somebody is saying LSU should never lose and win the national championship every year every day? Yeah, that's not exaggeration at all.

And though I get the jest of what you're trying to convey, you're taking it to the extreme... Miles deserves criticism (and praise) for his tenure at LSU, and this is the rant after all.

And quit using "this isn't madden" in all of your posts.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 4:12 am to
Quit using madden? Uh no. I will consider it when it is not ridiculously obvious that most of the posters here believe that you can use cheat codes in a real game. Now go back to your madden game.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6065 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 7:38 am to
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Now go back to your madden game


Sad this is all you got. There is another poster who only thinks in absolutes, can't have a logical dicussion, or speak intelligently why or why not LSU has QB, offense, or coaching issues.

His name is Gray Tiger. Congrats. You're just as stupid as one of the worst posters on this site.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27958 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:14 am to
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These stats use ALL games, not just SEC regular season games.

Lee, Jefferson, and Mettenberger got better from their first year as a starting QB to their last year as a starting QB.

Mettenberger
QB Rating increased by 43.11 points from 2012 to 2013
Comp% increased by 6.06% from 2012 to 2013
YPA increased by 3.00 yards from 2012 to 2013

When you have to start cherry picking your stats then its an admission that you know your argumant is bullshite

You use JJs first year where he saw limited playing time, but conveniently leave out Metts first year. Hmmm, I wonder why? Was it because it would blow your BS argument out of the water that he improved, or that he might have been SEC ready when he stepped on campus? Lets review:

Mett QBr

2011 - 172.98
2012 - 128.34
2012 - 171.45

Looks like he was a better quarterback before Miles got a hold of him. And now JJs supposed improvement:

2008 - 112.87
2009 - 138.87
2010 - 114.70

Thats progression right there. In 2010, JJ had gotten so much better that Miles, against everything within him, called for Jarrett Lee off the bench in 3 games, to save his arse from getting fired
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:37 am to
All I got? Why bother with anything else when the truth so obviously fits and your earlier post confirmed it. Now you are at 4th and 9 at the Bama 45 better get back to your game.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6065 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 10:38 am to
Thanks for confirming what I said. I guess you should be pitied rather than mocked.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14538 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Can we as a fan base not recognize that young QB's develop over time? by tigereye58


I can agree to that, but I'd like first to see one of our guys improve not regress as the season goes on. It's been regression unquestionably the last two years, so it gives some pause.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 10:53 am to
Kid, you don't even know how to be condescending. You're a joke,just like the rest of those like you
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 11:07 am to
Cam doesn't know what he's doing. His time at LSU is by far his most productive years in the college ranks. This is his best and it's not enough. He's not good enough. He's had time to bring in and develop a QB and he has not even produced a top 10 QB. He was gifted Mett and he certainly helped him improve, but we had 2 all pro receivers as well.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10095 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 11:10 am to
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Was it because it would blow your BS argument out of the water that he improved, or that he might have been SEC ready when he stepped on campus?
2011 - 172.98

From my earlier post
quote:

FCS NSU
Mett's first 4 SEC starts avg RAT was around 90.

and
the majority of snaps (4/6 games 11-5 >1-9) in JJ's 2011 138.71 was vs much stiffer competition compared to 2009.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76500 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 11:44 am to
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2 1k yard receivers and hill over 1k rushing. The offense didn't underperform.

Considering the NFL talent and the fact the offense finished middle of the pack in the SEC, and STILL sputtered against Bama...yes it underperformed. It was very good offense and the defense was the real problem, but 2013 offense should've been better.

The fact is, that was most offensive talent LSU will likely have under Les, and it still failed against Bama. Tells me LSU is incapable of scoring on Bama regardless of personnel, regardless of recruiting. It won't happen.
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