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re: Bowl Game if LSU doesn't make the ship

Posted on 11/11/10 at 11:57 am to
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 11:57 am to
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No LSU hasn't scoredd 35 nor have they beat anybody by 40. I'm not saying it would happen, but I would love to see it happen. I would take TCU as well


LSU scoring 40 on TCU

Posted by nchawk
Greensboro, NC
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:13 pm to
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f Auburn wins out and wins the SEC: Sugar Bowl vs. Bosie St If Auburn wins out and loses the SECCG: Capital One Bowl vs Michigan IMO



Sugar with 1st pick with nab a team with a huge fan base - look around outside of the SEC - who are the usual suspects? Big Ten team

Capital One bowl isn't going to pick Michigan or did you mean Michigan State?



Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8164 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:18 pm to
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I don't think that applies anymore


It still applies.
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8164 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:22 pm to
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People should get TCU out of their minds. Boise is not passing up TCU in the BCS for one. That means only TCU will be guaranteed a BCS bowl game. Also, the Rose Bowl has already committed to taking the highest NON AQ if they lose a team, so I am almost certain the Sugar Bowl will pass on TCU knowing someone else will take them. The bowls are about money, so I firmly believe the Sugar passes on Boise too and takes Ohio State or maybe Nebraska if they lose the Big We championship. The bowls can honestly careless about a good matchup, hence TCU v Boise in the same game last year. They want travel revenue in those cities.


Someone sticky this.

In the end, if LSU is top 4 in the BCS and Auburn wins the SEC title, they are guaranteed a spot.

If LSU is top 4 in the BCS and Auburn loses in the SECCG, LSU will have to hope that they are selected at 11-1 over a 12-1 Auburn team.

The "easiest" road to a BCS bowl for LSU is actually for Auburn to beat UGA but lose to Bama. That would drop Auburn to 11-1 and likely behind LSU in the BCS. While a win in the SECCG would put Auburn back into the top 2 (most likely, a la 2007 LSU), we would still be in the top 4. In the event that Auburn loses the SECCG, then LSU will be top 4 and no other SEC team will be up there to fight for that spot.
Posted by lesgeaux
Member since Jul 2008
3362 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:27 pm to
Assuming LSU wins out, if Auburn loses to Bama and then wins SECCG, and Stanford loses 1 more, any shot the Rose would take 11-1 LSU over 10-2 Stanford that has a late-season loss?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59092 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:41 pm to
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nd Stanford loses 1 more, any shot the Rose would take 11-1 LSU over 10-2 Stanford that has a late-season loss?



No, frick they took a 9-3 Illinois, they want Big 10 Pac 10. The only reason we got run in 2006 was because there was no other Pac 10 team close to qualifying outside of USC.

The Rose Bowl will be TCU/Boise/Stanford vs Big 10 Winner.
Posted by ellis mike the tiger
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:59 pm to
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In the event that Auburn loses the SECCG, then LSU will be top 4 and no other SEC team will be up there to fight for that spot.


Then what BCS bowl do you imagine we would go to, since the east winner would go to the sugar? Orange, Fiesta, or Rose? Can we get lsumatt to answer this because I am really curious about this.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27721 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:01 pm to
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which team would you like to see LSU play the most?


I would like to see LSU and Boise in the Rose Bowl, but that is because I have a place to stay in LA. I all but had my shite packed for LA to play USC, but had to stay home and watch us beatdown ND. I know there is no way in hell that this would happen, so am going to say the Sugar Bowl with LSU vs Boise St.
Posted by TigerOnTheProwl
Banned for eating Chicken and Grass
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:22 pm to
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I would like LSU play Boise State in the Sugar Bowl and beat them by 40 points.


I have serious doubts that this LSU team could be ANYONE by 40 points, just sayin'. I think LSU would beat Boise, but by 40 I would seriously doubt.
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8164 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:27 pm to
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Then what BCS bowl do you imagine we would go to, since the east winner would go to the sugar? Orange, Fiesta, or Rose? Can we get lsumatt to answer this because I am really curious about this.


A lot of the talk here has been that LSU would end up in the title game.

Here's the order:

Fill up #1 and #2 -- let's just say Oregon and TCU, just for kicks, in the BCSNCG. For argument's sake, 11-1 LSU is sitting there at #3 and 12-1 Auburn is sitting there at #4.

Then we fill in the auto bids from the conferences:

Rose -- Wisconsin (Big Ten champ) vs. ???
Sugar -- Florida (SEC champ) vs. ???
Fiesta -- Nebraska (Big 12 champ) vs. ???
Orange -- Va Tech (ACC champ) vs. ???

Then, based on the rule that states that after the conference champs, teams #1 and #2, and any auto-qualifying non-BCS conf team are slotted (and Notre Dame, but that's not relevant this year), #3 is given an auto bid. #4, since it is in the same conference as #3, does not get an auto-bid. Thus the importance of LSU getting to #3 if Auburn loses the SECCG; getting to #3 would be a lot easier if Auburn is 11-1 before the SECCG. Pitt, at 7-5 or some shitty record like that, is the last auto-qualifier.

The Rose, since it lost one of its champs, and because it does not have to take a team that is a non-auto-qualifier (I believe that the rules state that only one non-AQ team in the BCS top 12 or 16 gets an auto-bid; other teams can qualify but are not automatically given a slot), will pick first from the eligible at-large teams and the auto-qualifiers. They are followed by the Sugar, then the Orange, then the Fiesta.

I would guess, just off hand, that Pitt, LSU, Stanford and Ohio State are in the bowls. Pitt will be the last pick, so congrats Fiesta -- Nebraska vs. Pitt.

Rose will take a top 6 Stanford team to face Wisconsin.

Sugar will have an SEC team in it, so it'll likely take Ohio State to face UF.

I think that leaves LSU in the Orange Bowl against Va. Tech.
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 1:45 pm
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34461 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:31 pm to
Which order do the bowls pick this year. Once we know that, it would be pretty easy to figure out who would go where, assuming everyone wins out.

Never mind, its right above me.
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 1:32 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59092 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:35 pm to
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Sugar will have an SEC team in it, so it'll likely take Boise State to face UF


I seriously doubt the Sugar takes Boise over a Big 10. At least one of tOSU, Iowa and Mich State will be eligible. After 3 years of Hawaii, Utah, Cincinnati, look for the Sugar to not take a non BCS team with Big 10 teams eligible.
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8164 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:44 pm to
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I seriously doubt the Sugar takes Boise over a Big 10. At least one of tOSU, Iowa and Mich State will be eligible. After 3 years of Hawaii, Utah, Cincinnati, look for the Sugar to not take a non BCS team with Big 10 teams eligible.



Fair enough. In this realm, put OSU. In fact, I'll edit my above post to say this.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:44 pm to
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Rose -- Wisconsin (Big Ten champ) vs. ???
Sugar -- Florida (SEC champ) vs. ???
Fiesta -- Nebraska (Big 12 champ) vs. ???
Orange -- Va Tech (ACC champ) vs. ???
If this is the order of selection, my guess would be, assuming everyone wins out:

BCSNCG Auburn vs Oregon

Rose- Wisconsin vs Stanford
Sugar- LSU vs. TCU
Fiesta- Nebraska vs. Boise st.
Orange- Va Tech vs. Big East Champ (not sure whom that would be)
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:44 pm to
If LSU wins out, Aubie Ore win out it'll be like this:

BCSNCG- Aubie vs Oregon
Rose- Wisconsin vs TCU
Sugar- LSU- Ohio st
Orange- BSU vs Va Tech
Fiesta- Okie St vs Pitt
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8164 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:45 pm to
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If this is the order of selection, my guess would be, assuming everyone wins out:



This is not the order of selection, and my post was the answer to the question of where does LSU go if Auburn loses the SECCG. If LSU is ranked ahead of Auburn at that point, then they go, IMO, to the Orange.
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8164 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:47 pm to
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If LSU wins out, Aubie Ore win out it'll be like this:

BCSNCG- Aubie vs Oregon
Rose- Wisconsin vs TCU
Sugar- LSU- Ohio st
Orange- BSU vs Va Tech
Fiesta- Okie St vs Pitt


This is more likely. Remember, everyone, that if the Rose Bowl loses a team to the NCG this year, they have to take a non-BCS conf team if one automatically qualifies and is not in the NCG. So, TCU would have to go to the Rose.
Posted by The ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
825 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 2:00 pm to
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The "easiest" road to a BCS bowl for LSU is actually for Auburn to beat UGA but lose to Bama. That would drop Auburn to 11-1 and likely behind LSU in the BCS.


Pretty sure Brad Edwards, the "BCS GURU" said that the biggest threat to TCU making it to the BCS NC is still a 1 loss Auburn team - assuming that team they lose to is Bama and not in the SECC.

Either way, if LSU wins out, it stays in the top 4 of the BCS. Ark is around 12 or 15 which is still pretty strong.

Settel down people. @ big games left for LSU to win.
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8164 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 2:15 pm to
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Pretty sure Brad Edwards, the "BCS GURU" said that the biggest threat to TCU making it to the BCS NC is still a 1 loss Auburn team - assuming that team they lose to is Bama and not in the SECC.


Again, I was writing from the premise that Auburn loses the SECCG. Auburn at 12-0 losing the SECCG likely means they will be selected into a BCS bowl, unless they drop behind LSU and LSU is an automatic qualifier at #3 or #4.

Auburn at 11-1 losing the SECCG would make LSU a lock, if LSU wins out.

What would REALLY suck is if Auburn loses in the SECCG, dropping to 12-1, but they drop only to #3, forcing LSU at #4 out of a BCS game altogether.
Posted by lesgeaux
Member since Jul 2008
3362 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 2:21 pm to
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Which order do the bowls pick this year.


2010 Picking order
BCSCG: BCS #1 vs BCS #2
Rose: Big Ten Champ vs. Pac-10 Champ

Then...
Sugar: SEC Champ vs. At-large pick #1
Orange: ACC Champ vs. At-large pick #2
Fiesta: Big XII Champ vs. At-large pick #3

Whichever bowl(s) lose a team to the National Championship will get a compensation pick (according to that team's rank) before any other at-large selections.

So, assuming BCSCG is #1 Oregon vs #2 Auburn, at-large picking order will be as follows:

1) Rose - compensation for Oregon
2) Sugar - compensation for Auburn
3) Sugar
4) Orange
5) Fiesta
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