re: Both coordinators called horrible games.

You wasting your time Josh is a huge JD fan and denbrock fan. He can't see the limitations of either

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You wasting your time Josh is a huge JD fan and denbrock fan

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Im a realistic lsu fan. I can have a logical discussion about the strengths and weaknesses of both if you want.

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I agree however I place the blame on coaching not demanding deep throws!

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I agree..... JD5 had some good poackets with a lot of time to throw it and did not... Don't want to hear the horseshite about no one open when you have one on one with go routes, because Moose Mohd says I don't need to be open for making magic one handed catches.

I would have benched JD5 and put in someone to chunk it down the field 3 straight times and say to JD5, that's how you throw the frigging ball.... and if you cannot do that when we call that play then we will sit your arse!!

It is on everyone involved in the poor effort. No single person or group is exempt. Just a poor effort by the team and coaches. Hopefully lessons will be learned

The players played poorly. This was not a coordinator issue.

The key players did not
Execute their assignments.

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I find it hard to blame denbrock until I see film. Looked like another classic case of Jayden refusing to throw the ball down the field and just buying time before he could scramble.

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I’d be more willing to accept this if this hasn’t been the case for 12 games.

Denbrock’s approach is incredibly predictable and uncreative. Opponents just as soon not defend inside the hashes because LSU isn’t throwing there. The passing game basically consists of a TE in motion to, seemingly, set up an 8 yard comeback route outside the hashes.

Joe Burrow looked like a very average QB in a predictable, uncreative offense in 2018. Then someone brought a new approach in 2019 that constantly created mismatches and confusion for the defense through scheme and formations. The result? Burrow had the best year as a QB in the history of the game.

I’m NOT saying Daniels is as good as Burrow. But this offensive approach is just as pathetic as many under Miles. Hell, even last season’s approach was better. Kayson Boutte was the best WR in the country through the first 5 games. Opponents knew they had to try to stop him. Yet, LSU was still able to scheme him open several times a game.

This season…Boutte got 1-2 targets a game. That’s inexcusable. If your QB is struggling to efficiently execute the design of the offense…then find an offensive design that works for him.

For nearly 10 years it was the same shite under Miles. People waiting on that one great QB who could finally unlock Miles’s pathetic offensive approach. It never happened. In fact, they found that great QB in 2018 and even HE couldn’t unlock the greatness of the conservative, unimaginative approach (Ensminger’s offense was just an extension of the Miles offense). It took changing the approach in 2019 to finally find a formidable offense.

The ending sucked, but this was a better than expected season. Expectations are going to be MUCH higher next year and, IMO, as long as Denbrock is the OC we’re are going to be having the same discussions as we did under Miles. A good team that is not quite championship level desperately waiting for the one great QB to change everything when the reality is that guy will never come because the OC is the problem…not the QB

When the DEs consistently refuse to play contain and force the running back inside, that is on the players. There were multiple big runs where the defense had the righ play call and Gaye or Oujilari pushed inside the runner giving him the edge and a big run. These are upperclassman mind you that should know better.

On offense, drops and Daniels refusal to let the ball rip killed any chance of success on multiple drives. Daniels still plays scared when throwing and got selfish on the 3rd and 1 play where he fumbled. That’s not in the coaches. That is on Daniel’s.

House—terrible but made adjustments early in the second half, we just turned it over and couldn’t recover.

Denbrock—I think he called a decent game we just couldn’t throw beyond 5 yards.

Why Denbrock continues to drop Daniels straight back is a mystery to me. His legs are what makes him a dynamic qb and he functions better out of the RPO. He does hold onto the ball to long though :(