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BK, LSU should 100% consult Bartoo on next defensive staff

Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:52 pm
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27427 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:52 pm
As I pointed out earlier this week, Dave Bartoo and his coaching analytics 100% nailed the porous defensive staff LSU put together.

Bartoo went on with Tigerbait yesterday going into further detail. Tigerbait Interview

Key takeaways:
*Bottom 5 coaching staff in the P5
*Not one above average rated defensive coach
*Bartoo currently consults 5 other SEC programs in coaching hires

And my biggest takeaway is the one star LSU had, Jamar Cain, BK and House, allegedly, ran him off because they didn’t like the technique he taught the defensive line.

Bartoo cites Cain as a 5 star DL coach and Jimmy Lindsey a 2 star, albeit very unfair to grade him this year.

And when you think about the productivity Roy, Wingo, Ojulari had a year ago, I think it’s evident how much better Cain was then what’s in place now.
This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 12:53 pm
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
72010 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:56 pm to
This Bartoo character needs his own board at this point
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3995 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:56 pm to
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I think it’s evident how much better Cain was then what’s in place now.



So you think having a DL coach is better than having no DL coach?
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14933 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:56 pm to
He has the grade for his past work. Lindsey was a sub par hire as was the entire defensive staff.

For some being paid 10M a year the defensive staff was horrendous l
Posted by WDAIII
Member since Aug 2020
3130 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:57 pm to
When Cain left the defense has spiraled downhill from top to bottom
This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12226 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:03 pm to
CBK needs to figure it out quick. The current staff isn’t cutting it at all.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34855 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:03 pm to
Running off Cain is so stupid that even Ed O wouldn’t have done that.

Lsu beats ole miss and has a plethora of good DL commits had BK not been so stupid.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7582 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

*Bartoo currently consults 5 other SEC programs in coaching hires


which 5?

Vandy, Carolina, Florida, and the Mississippi schools?
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
72010 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:08 pm to
Is Cain being run off just accepted as fact now?
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10479 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:09 pm to
It's surprising that Kelly has made such atrocious hires on the defensive staff.

Jamar Cain was the only good hire - and then he replaced him with another below average hire with Lindsey.
Posted by Boboss504
Member since Mar 2022
53 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:10 pm to
If you need a search firm , your in the wrong business
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27427 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

It's surprising that Kelly has made such atrocious hires on the defensive staff.


I thought Kelly’s best attribute when hired was his ability to pick DCs

Diaco won the Broyles Award (coincidentally, now on staff)
Elko doing incredible at Duke
Clark Lea
Freeman

Then we got House and his $1.9M annual salary
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
5771 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Bottom 5 coaching staff in the P5
m

This is true
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27427 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:32 pm to
Defensive coaching staff*

I hope that’s implied in my OP
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3399 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:39 pm to
This was a very interesting.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10584 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:40 pm to
A complete overhaul is needed if we want to be a title contender again. If healthy, I believe Lindsey will get a chance to coach. The rest of the defensive staff has failed miserably.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14933 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:49 pm to
Honestly I would rather move him to admin and move on. He was a below average hire.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26702 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

BK and House, allegedly, ran him off because they didn’t like the technique he taught the defensive line
I don't believe this nonsense one bit.
Posted by brettamedee
Locust Grove, Georgia
Member since Jul 2013
134 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:58 pm to
The guy is accurate and reason we are so bad on that side of the ball.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26702 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 2:00 pm to
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Running off Cain is so stupid that even Ed O wouldn’t have done that.

Lsu beats ole miss and has a plethora of good DL commits had BK not been so stupid.
The fact that that you believe this shite is hilarious.

Pete Jenkins talked about him coming in to do a crash course with Cain. He spent an entire week mentoring him, going over everything, and then he just up and left right after.

Maybe House didn't like Cain's teaching, but I don't think for a second BK ran him off. Also, despite what people say, a healthy Lindsay would have had a world of difference on this DL.
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