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Biggest gamble hires

Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:15 am
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41208 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:15 am
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BIGGEST GAMBLE HIRES
Every athletic director who made a hire this past offseason is hopeful right now – hopeful that he got the right guy, and the program is headed in the right direction, and the payoff in Saturday glory is about to unfold before their eyes.

Not all of them are right. Not by a long shot. On paper, these are the three riskiest hires that were made for the 2017 season:

Ed Orgeron (31), LSU. The Tigers fired a guy with a .719 career winning percentage (Les Miles), whiffed on hiring guys with winning percentages of .821 (Jimbo Fisher) and .820 (Tom Herman) and abruptly settled for Coach O, batting .431. But hey, he’s from Louisiana and loves the state and can growl out the hometowns of every in-state player on the roster. What could possibly go wrong? In the SEC West? At a place obsessed with trying to beat Nick Saban?



Pat Forde
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11911 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:17 am to
Groundbreaking stuff right there. I can't believe no one thought of that before
Posted by RonnieBass
Member since Dec 2013
324 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:17 am to
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Pat Forde


nope.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32496 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:19 am to
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But hey, he’s from Louisiana and loves the state and can growl out the hometowns of every in-state player on the roster. What could possibly go wrong? In the SEC West? At a place obsessed with trying to beat Nick Saban?

This guy steals his material from the rant.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22157 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:19 am to
If you can't see that Ed Orgeron was a risky hire then you're beyond help.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127420 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:20 am to
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But hey, he’s from Louisiana and loves the state and can growl out the hometowns of every in-state player on the roster.

Forde has definitely followed the posts of some of us.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 11:20 am
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57712 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:20 am to
It's a lazy arse argument.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:20 am to
Not shite.
Posted by Ozone1
Member since Aug 2017
324 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:22 am to
Sure he is a risky hire, as is Herman at Texas
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19830 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:23 am to
Herman was a bigger gamble
Posted by Malaysian Tiger
Manila
Member since May 2008
4732 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:40 am to
So in a few years Coach O will be making 7 million like Debo. I did not know that Debo's original Salary was like $800,000 a year.
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4361 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:47 am to
I don't like dumbo he dosnt have a steady head and I don't like the tom herman show 1
Posted by BlindTiger7
Houston
Member since Sep 2016
2683 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:49 am to
Orgeron is a better fit for the program overall. Herman would have been a gamble IMO. I'm glad things turned out how they did
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25173 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:51 am to
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Herman was a bigger gamble


Not really. They replaced Charlie Strong with Herman. He of 16-21. We replaced Les Miles, and for as much as the game passed him by, he was WAYYYYY better than Chuck Strong.

Texas replaced what was the equivalent of Ed Orgeron with Tom Herman.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24829 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 12:12 pm to
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Pat Forde


Ok, frick this asshat. It's true that the Orgeron hire was a gamble. He does, however, have successful P5 HC experience at two schools (albeit on interim basis). Tom Herman is a good coach but he cannot boast the same.

And this clown doesn't mention that our recruiting class stayed very strong in spite of the coaching change. Nor does he mention that Orgeron only had to fire and replace three assistants to make the whole staff "his own". How many of Strong's Texas guys did Herman keep as opposed to those he brought in himself?

Orgeron was dealt a winning hand, with little doubt. And he has made all the right moves since getting the HC job officially. I know it wasn't a sexy hire. It wasn't even the hire I wanted. But it's what we got and I support him until he gives me a reason not to, just like Miles did. Tired of hacks shiteing all over the guy before he even has his first game as LSU HC under his belt.
Posted by nugget
Mostly Peaceful Poster
Member since Dec 2009
13818 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 12:28 pm to
Rallying the troops on an interim basis is much different. You don't have the opportunity to mess up hires like Mickey Joseph when you're the interim. Also, our recruiting has been very poor thus far for the class of 18.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35654 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 12:52 pm to
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If you can't see that Ed Orgeron was an idiotic hire then you're beyond help.

FIFY
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35654 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 12:55 pm to
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He does, however, have successful P5 HC experience at two schools (albeit on interim basis). Tom Herman is a good coach but he cannot boast the same. 
Yea, because Herman was actually building a successful program at UH and bringing in some big recruits.

Orgeron was handed everything. Thus, your statement is wrong. It's actually O that can't boast of the same accomplishments that Herman has, already, as a young coach.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 1:36 pm to
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Herman was a bigger gamble


Much bigger. Anyway, he never would have come to LSU anyway.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 2:10 pm to
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Herman would have been a gamble IMO


Herman was not without risk, no doubt. But at least we watched him run his own program successfully, and he did pretty well.

Pretty hard to guess how O is going to do, considering we have no true data within the last 10 years. (which is apparently the statute of limitations when it comes to coaching, at least according to this board)

Besides Canada, his other hires were quite risky in themselves.
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