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re: Best 2 sport athlete of all time? LSU

Posted on 1/8/17 at 5:30 pm to
Posted by Gus Tinsley
NW LA.
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 5:30 pm to
Alvin Dark.....do the homework...you will agree
Posted by Jmwtigre
Tyler, TX
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 5:31 pm to
Cannon may have been the best natural athlete I ever saw - I went high school with him.

The dashes & shot were very unusual & he other their natural ability. One day during track practice he decided to run the hurdles until coach McCoin saw him & almost had a heart attack screaming at him to get off the track.

He also ran anchor on 440 & 880 yd relays. He also started on the high school basketball team.
This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 5:32 pm
Posted by The Belk
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by Gus Tinsley
NW LA.
Member since May 2008
3346 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

Best 2 sport athlete of all time? LSU


What is amazing to me by 90% of the responses is that most only go back 10-15 years. Some of you kids need to get Pete Finney and Dan Hardestys books.
You will find out that LSU was playing football before Nick Saban got here!!
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 5:38 pm to
Definitely Lyle Mouton.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 5:58 pm to
Like a few intelligent folks have already said- the answer is Alvin Dark.

Read about him. He was an incredible baseball and football player at LSU, an all-star in the majors (who deserves to be in the baseball Hall of Fame), and a successful World Series-winning manager.

Billy Cannon is a solid second.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

The dashes & shot were very unusual & he other their natural ability. One day during track practice he decided to run the hurdles until coach McCoin saw him & almost had a heart attack screaming at him to get off the track


Sounds like he could have been a decathlete.
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

Bench pressed 270# in 1957; which at the time was 10# less than the Olympic record.


This isn't right. Per Wikipedia, it was over 400 in 1953. My dad played football at USL from 58-62 and benched 400 lbs (he told me Red Lerille put 400 on the bar and told him it was 390 to trick him)
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
11301 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 7:01 pm to
Popig

Thanks for the correction about Clay Parker. I was thinking about Robbie Smith who played around the same time as Clay and passed. I'm showing my age with the bad memory.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Cannon may have been the best natural athlete I ever saw - I went high school with him.

The dashes & shot were very unusual & he other their natural ability. One day during track practice he decided to run the hurdles until coach McCoin saw him & almost had a heart attack screaming at him to get off the track.

He also ran anchor on 440 & 880 yd relays. He also started on the high school basketball team.

Plus he was dang good as Defensive football player, too
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 7:28 pm to
CJ3 FTW
Posted by Makinbacon
Member since Jul 2015
2791 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 7:33 pm to
Jared Mitchell reminded me of a German Shepard running the bases.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12336 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 7:35 pm to
I will vote for Chad Jones. Cannon was first and foremost a football player. Track was an afterthought. Holiday was a track star and basically a track athlete in a football uniform. McDonald was a great pitcher who played basketball as an off season hobby. Chad Jones excelled at both football and baseball. He was a great safety and an major factor on a National Championship baseball team.
Posted by Cannon
Shreveport
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:28 pm to
Would've could've should've been Josh Booty. National player of the year in both football and baseball senior year of high school. First and only person to achieve that honor at the time. If he doesn't take the record signing bonus and enrolls at LSU out of high school, no telling what he could've accomplished.
Posted by MetryMike
Member since Jun 2013
160 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:37 pm to
Best "athlete" -

1. Cannon - likely could have broken the world record in the decathlon.

2. Dark - should be in the MLB Hall of Fame.

Other notables:

3. Miley (excellent QB, immediate starter at SS for the Angels. Who knows what the limit would have been on his career? I once saw him make an impossible catch in centerfield, and while laying on his back double up the runner who had left second presuming the ball would fall in, to win an SEC game in the bottom of the ninth. Yeah, I know he was a SS, but he caught the ball in center.)

4. Mouton (sometimes starter in BBall, very good pro outfielder.)

5. Holliday (NCAA champ sprinter, more than a mere contributor in football, despite some limitations catching and holding on to the ball.)

Overlooked:

6. Devery Henderson (anchor on NCAA record 400m relay and 4x400 and starting receiver on Superbowl Saints). (If you include guys like Kennison. Slip Watkins? Xavier Carter? Come on, man...)

7. Chad Jones could have played pro football and pitched as a reliever in baseball, but his college career in the latter was limited, and of course his pro careers never happened.

Don't know if any of the track guys could shoot a basketball or hit a baseball - I know that many of the football players were terrible at those from playing against them.

A number of football linemen also have thrown the shot or discus. There was one D-line guy on the track team who I saw run a credible leg on the 4x400 relay when LSU fielded two teams of runners and needed an eighth guy. I don't remember his name.

Posted by Cityzen225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2016
279 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:44 pm to
Mitchell & Jones were the only people in college history to have a BCS and CWS titles when they beat Texas. Dont know if that still stands. Also became 2nd & 3rd LSU athletes to claim multiple sport national titles, joining Bennie Brazil (Track & Football). It's so hard to pick between the two, but while at LSU, I feel like Chad Jones was the better all around athlete. Thanks for the share man!
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98185 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

Johnnie Robinson (also an all American)


IIRC he was also an All-American tennis player. He has to get points for most unusual combination.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

A number of football linemen also have thrown the shot or discus. There was one D-line guy on the track team who I saw run a credible leg on the 4x400 relay when LSU fielded two teams of runners and needed an eighth guy. I don't remember his name.


I would like to know who that is. 400 meters is a long way for anybody to run at max effort, much less a big guy.
Posted by moock blackjack
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:43 pm to
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Posted by MetryMike
Member since Jun 2013
160 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:34 pm to
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I would like to know who that is. 400 meters is a long way for anybody to run at max effort, much less a big guy.


It was Charles "Chip" Miller, a defensive tackle from NOLA who lettered in 1972 and 1973. If I recall correctly it was 440 yards then, not 400 meters, and he clocked under 50 seconds. I was amazed since I ran the 880. I would have beaten him in a footrace of course, but I was only pushing 173 lbs.
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