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BBall transfers
Posted on 3/30/22 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 3/30/22 at 1:27 pm
Not sure I understand the mindset of some of these entering the portal. You have a new previously successful coach bringing his starting PG with him and possibly a couple of others. You didn't play at all and now have a chance to start or get max playing time at a P5 school. Unless someone is going to throw money at you or you are assured of starting wherever you transfer, why leave? You can always transfer after next year and will have had a year to show what you can do. I mean a 3* out of high school who hardly played last year has a better shot somewhere else?
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Posted on 3/30/22 at 1:31 pm to mcspufftiger7
Not sure some of these kids have a real choice.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 1:39 pm to mcspufftiger7
It's not that difficult to understand. The coaching staff that recruited them to LSU is no longer here. Few, if any, have any type of relationship with McMahon. Thus, they are entering the portal to allow themselves to be re-recruited again...including by Matt McMahon to LSU.
Perhaps in that recruiting process they ultimately decide LSU is where they want to be. But I certainly can understand why they would want to explore all options. There is nothing unreasonable about that at all. No one ever bemoans a pro player for exercising his right to free agency to test the market for his services. That is basically what these kids are doing here.
Perhaps in that recruiting process they ultimately decide LSU is where they want to be. But I certainly can understand why they would want to explore all options. There is nothing unreasonable about that at all. No one ever bemoans a pro player for exercising his right to free agency to test the market for his services. That is basically what these kids are doing here.
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 3/30/22 at 2:30 pm to Alt26
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It's not that difficult to understand. The coaching staff that recruited them to LSU is no longer here.
It’s true they aren’t here and maybe the Wade money payments aren’t here either, but MM can coach circles around Wade. With the amount of 5 and 4 stars that Wade payed to come to Lsu I would definitely say that they underachieved. Wade couldn’t coach a junior high offense. I still can’t tell you what kind of offense Wade ran. He got these superstars out of high school to come here and then didn’t know what to do with them or how to best utilize them. It’s unreal that WW is still favorably looked upon by some of our fans. I am just as excited about having a competent coach that knows basketball as I am to have competent coaches in our football program. If these bought players want to leave then good luck to them.
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 3/30/22 at 2:43 pm to mcspufftiger7
While I'm not saying anyone definitely will come back, entering the transfer portal doesnt automatically mean you're gone, just means other schools can recruit you.
Not a bad idea for players under Wade to see who might else want them. I'm sure a lot of these guys were loyal to Wade and also dont know what's going to happen to the program itself from a sanctions standpoint. Might as well see what else is out there.
Not a bad idea for players under Wade to see who might else want them. I'm sure a lot of these guys were loyal to Wade and also dont know what's going to happen to the program itself from a sanctions standpoint. Might as well see what else is out there.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 2:45 pm to supersaints9
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Wade couldn’t coach a junior high offense.
Can always tell the people who actually paid attention to basketball program and then guys like this
FYI - Wade had some of the top offenses in the entire country every year here but last year. That's 4/5 years.
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 3/30/22 at 2:47 pm to thunderbird1100
Yeah because he had Cam Thomas shooting 50 times a game. What offense does Wade run?
Posted on 3/30/22 at 2:48 pm to supersaints9
quote:Watch the NBA and you'll find out. It was a lot of ISO and ball screens.
Yeah because he had Cam Thomas shooting 50 times a game. What offense does Wade run?
Again, which led to us having among the best offenses in the entire country for 4 straight years under him. Complaining about offense under Will wade is just plain stupid. No, he didnt have good offenses for FOUR straight years because of 1 year of Thomas throwing up a bunch of shots. Overall he had VERY efficient offenses.
We didn't take many mid-range 2 point jumpers, we mostly only took shots at the rim or 3 pointers. We hit our FTs usually pretty well. We also rebounded very well on the offensive end usually. If you can do some basic things like that well, you can get a pretty efficient offense. You dont need to run around like a 1970s Princeton offense to have a good offense.
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 3/30/22 at 3:04 pm to supersaints9
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Yeah because he had Cam Thomas shooting 50 times a game. What offense does Wade run?
LSU ran a lot of continuity offense that was predicated on a lot of ball screens and spacing. They wanted to spread the floor to create driving lanes and mis-matches. When you have good players and one one on scoring, you give them space to beat their defenders one on one and create. The second big part of LSU's offense under Wade was that they crashed the offense glass. LSU was routinely one of the better offensive rebounding teams in the country.
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Also, Cam Thomas was at LSU for one season. So how do you explain LSU being a top 12 offense (in terms of efficiency) in 2019 and 2020? LSU was number #33 in 2018. Not bad for a team with "no talent."
LSU's offense was not good this year. No one denies that. But the argument that he "couldn't coach offense" is HANDS DOWN one of the dumbest narratives constantly spouted on the board for the last 5 years. You had countless people bitching about the offense in 2020 and 2021...despite LSU being a top 5 offense in the NATION.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 3:06 pm to Alt26
Alt26 is dead on.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 3:06 pm to thunderbird1100
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Complaining about offense under Will wade is just plain stupid. No, he didnt have good offenses for FOUR straight years because of 1 year of Thomas throwing up a bunch of shots. Overall he had VERY efficient offenses.
Yeah, but were were the backdoor cuts and Norman Dale's mandatory 4 passes before shooting?!!! I saw Hoosiers. I know all there is to know about offensive basketball.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 3:15 pm to thunderbird1100
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Watch the NBA and you'll find out. It was a lot of ISO and ball screens.
Exactly. Was it complicated? Sometimes it was not. But when you have Tremont Waters, Skylar Mays, and Javonte Smart handing the ball and then specimens like Naz Reid, KBW, and Emmitt Williams as your bigs...you run lots of ball screens up top and then run counters based on how the defense decides to react. Seems fairly straightforward to me.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 3:28 pm to supersaints9
Yeah offensive coaching was Wade’s strength not his weakness. You can definitely tell who started watching this year
Posted on 3/30/22 at 3:35 pm to mcspufftiger7
Honestly feel that if a coach can get thru to Eric Gaines and make him see his real potential his ceiling is borderline Ja Morant.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 3:49 pm to mcspufftiger7
Some may have no choice but to transfer because they received money from Wade or the other fired coach,
Posted on 3/30/22 at 3:53 pm to Alt26
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Yeah, but were were the backdoor cuts and Norman Dale's mandatory 4 passes before shooting?!!! I saw Hoosiers. I know all there is to know about offensive basketball.
Can't wait until these posters realize that McMahon has a very similar offensive approach to Wade.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 4:06 pm to mcspufftiger7
Let them all go. This group couldn't win a SEC title much less a trip to the Final Four if their lives depended upon it.... .collection of misfires that couldn't hit a bull in his caboose with a 2 x 4
Posted on 3/30/22 at 4:08 pm to supersaints9
You have no idea if McMahon is a good coach. You are talking out of your arse. Wade had consistent success at lsu. Claiming some coach who hasn’t coached at a power 5 is a better coach than the guy who completely turned around lsu is just dumb.
Hopefully he is a better coach than Wade. That would be great. But to claim that now is ridiculous.
Hopefully he is a better coach than Wade. That would be great. But to claim that now is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 3/30/22 at 4:17 pm to tigersquad89
I agree with everything you said except we don’t know whether McMahon is a good coach or not. He has proven to be a good coach. Whether he is as successful as Wade in his first 4-5 years remains to be seen
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 3/30/22 at 5:07 pm to Alt26
I don't agree with that. My concern would always be the college that I want to go to. I wouldn't give a damm who the coach was. It was the school and the education I wanted. I understand today that that is the least reason for going to college. And as we look around we can see the results of that attitude. It's what can I suck out of this for my benefit. I just think it's a sham for the way Education is today. Guess I'm too old fashion.
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